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Langdon · 7 December 2003, 04:13 PM

For some time now I have been considering the camouflage style on the Fokker E.V wing and with many model aircraft builders replicating this aircraft I presume others have spent considerable time on this problem as well, if so I would like to hear of your observations.

Fortunately we do have some clues as the original E.V wing drawing No.33050/1 still exists (I have a copy thanks to the generosity of Mr P. Grosz) and in the materials list of the title block are the details of the paints used, in English they translate to: - New True Green, Azin Violet, Azure Blue & Mocha Brown and for each of these the requirement is 20 grams of product. The "remarks" column describes this product as "holzbeize" which is wood stain.

This wood stain would have been mixed either with water or a spirit and with the quantities mentioned it would have been applied fairly thinly. With the help of Koloman Mayrhofer we have been able to perform some tests using these same wood stains that have been produced by a company in Austria for around 90 years although their range of colours has decreased the colours they have supplied match the colour description given in the drawing. Incidentally we do not know what company or companies supplied Fokker at the time and it would be a long shot to suggest the company we are using is the same one but it is possible as there is an abreviated word in front of the wood stain description, Sch. which could stand for Schimek the company name from our product.

So these are the colours used but the question is how were they applied? Some have suggested they were mixed together to form an olive colour and applied either as a solid colour or streaked and others have suggested they were applied in bands of colour which is my preference, My belief is that they were lightly applied in a streaky fashion and that the colours, in the main, were kept separate. Why specify four colours if you only want one? It seems logical to me that the earthy tones, brown and green, would be used on the upper surface with violet and blue on the undersurface but anything is possible.

Here are some of our latest samples which I believe display the Spartan use of the stains. Please remember that there would have been a varnish finish applied over this.

I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of others on this subject.

Langdon

7 December 2003, 04:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Langdon Forum Ace Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 753	For some time now I have been considering the camouflage style on the Fokker E.V wing and with many model aircraft builders replicating this aircraft I presume others have spent considerable time on this problem as well, if so I would like to hear of your observations. Fortunately we do have some clues as the original E.V wing drawing No.33050/1 still exists (I have a copy thanks to the generosity of Mr P. Grosz) and in the materials list of the title block are the details of the paints used, in English they translate to: - New True Green, Azin Violet, Azure Blue & Mocha Brown and for each of these the requirement is 20 grams of product. The "remarks" column describes this product as "holzbeize" which is wood stain. This wood stain would have been mixed either with water or a spirit and with the quantities mentioned it would have been applied fairly thinly. With the help of Koloman Mayrhofer we have been able to perform some tests using these same wood stains that have been produced by a company in Austria for around 90 years although their range of colours has decreased the colours they have supplied match the colour description given in the drawing. Incidentally we do not know what company or companies supplied Fokker at the time and it would be a long shot to suggest the company we are using is the same one but it is possible as there is an abreviated word in front of the wood stain description, Sch. which could stand for Schimek the company name from our product. So these are the colours used but the question is how were they applied? Some have suggested they were mixed together to form an olive colour and applied either as a solid colour or streaked and others have suggested they were applied in bands of colour which is my preference, My belief is that they were lightly applied in a streaky fashion and that the colours, in the main, were kept separate. Why specify four colours if you only want one? It seems logical to me that the earthy tones, brown and green, would be used on the upper surface with violet and blue on the undersurface but anything is possible. Here are some of our latest samples which I believe display the Spartan use of the stains. Please remember that there would have been a varnish finish applied over this. I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of others on this subject. Langdon