To Whom it may concern:

Why Al I do believe you're upset! But something RASH! C'mon big fella! Take a deep breath.
Extend your arms, palms up, extend your thumb to the index finger and hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm
It helps dicipate negative energy.

VBR,

FokkDR1

Man! I hope these are just growing pains. Once again Scott: Hang in there!

I was hurt and dismayed that you of all people would be throwing stones.

Not that it matters, but if you'd go back to the original Bishop thread of Dec 9th and follow until current, you'd probably change your mind as to who the mean spirited one is.

I've never once denied Al Lowe his right to voice his opinion or his right to have one. I've even gone so far as to compliment Al on his website. Everyone on the Forum has a contribution to make, which is why I defend mine!

In the last three weeks I've been told I have no
life, that I'm a corpse kicker, and have been rung up for slander, libel, and defamation. On at least three occasions Al Lowe has proclaimed
for all the Forum to see "Your wrong, I'm right, I Win!" If you were in my shoes, wouldn't you respond?

Where were all the LOL freedom fighters and first ammendment advocates when I was being
attacked? Did I miss something or can't I have an opinion?

If defending my God given right to my own views
has caused you to be against me, I'm GLAD. I'd much rather that than for you to not respect me
because I laid down like a big dog under the baseless pontifications of Al Lowe. That goes for all of you!

Did you ever once hear me whine to the Forum
and cry that I'm never coming back. Now he's threatening to do something rash. Please.

And for you to take sides and beg him to come back. You of all people. The guy who's mental health has been questioned at least three times in the last month! It wasn't very nice was it. If I remember correctly it didn't take you long to go scurrying off to Scott Hamilton. You and Al are birds of a feather. (no offence intended Scott)

If after reading this reply, theres even one ounce of doubt in your mind that I wouldn't say something to your face, start a thread and get the ball rolling.

Forgive me Forum if I'm a little gruff, this whole matter has me feeling kind of surly! I even thought about doing something rash but thought better of it.

Regards to All,

Dennis

Dennis,
Excuse me for jumping in here but go read my thread on a Ditty for Allied Pilot Fans. Change any of the words you like but the flavor will still remain the same. Right on the money about some things though! As for Al... do what you gotta do my man. I've entertained those same feelings before. For all IGAF supporters out there, stop with the double standards, it's ok to slam Allied Pilots but not ok to slam IGAF Pilots?
For all the whiners bring some cheese with that whine and we'll all have a big New Years Party!
Well dudes, my ship just pulled into Hong Kong and I gotta go see the sights again for the 5th time.
Later,
Jim

Long live the memory of Billy Bishop and all the aviators who fought and died for their beliefs! I personally think Al Lowe's finding the enroute records of Jasta 20 more than supports the record of Bishops raid because how else could he have gotten the numbers of 6 Alb. scouts and 1 two seater correct. Thanx Al for your efforts to formally "prove" what the government as already accepted.

Dwight

[Billy_Bishop]

I wasn't gonna respond, but I think you wanted me to on this one.
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"As far as proof, yes, Bishop's combat report went unchallenged for OVER fifty years. At this point in time, it's really a moot subject. What's the point in challenging the record of a dead man?

That's what Cowan did. And I can't say I blame him. If he had challenged the record of a living man, he most likely would have been sued for libel.

Lucky thing for him that Bishop died early."
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The above is what I said. Where in there did I say YOU are attacking a dead man? What I said was "what's the point..." Ok, maybe that might be seen as intimating that you were attacking a dead man, but have you made a movie recently??? Have you written a book about Bishop saying he's a liar and a fraud?? THAT is what I was commenting on.

You can lambast Bishop here all you want. It's not going to make any news headlines. I doubt very much whether any of his relatives even know this place exists! (Unfortunately. I'd love for Arthur Bishop to get on here. I really would.)

Dead men get kicked around in here constantly, what's the harm? I'm not after YOU, you didn't make a mockery of a docu-drama and try to pass it off as truth, yet you seem to take everything I say as personal when it's not EVEN directed at you. I can't seem to make one tiny little comment without you assuming I mean YOU, when I don't.

As for my comments of "I WIN", the very first one was NEVER directed at you individually. AND, as I said before somewhere else, I probably should have put more smily faces around it, or JK-for "Just Kidding" all over the place. I figured that most everyone would know a joke when they saw one.

I was wrong.

NONE of us can win at this argument as there just isn't enough TRUSTFUL evidence left. This has been shown by comparing The Jasta Pilots to the records Ferko copied to Cowan for his testimony at the Canadian Senate hearings.

Ok, so there is no one who lives in the area, who remembers the raid, or was told about the raid that particular day. BIG DEAL!!! How many times was that area bombed, shelled, over-ran, or had other catastrophes occur to it? I'll bet that better and worse things happened there to the point that one little raid by one little plane probably doesn't merit remembering.

You see, for every point you or any other Bishop-detractor...(can I say that??) can come up with, I can most likely counter with just as good a counter point. Until we get a preponderance of GOOD evidence, one way or the other, neither one of us will win. The best we can hope for is a draw.

But be warned, anyone who calls Bishop a liar, cheat and fraud, better have 100% proof positive, cause I'm gonna challenge them every step of the way.

VBR to all,

Al Lowe

p.s. By rash, I meant resorting to more personal attacks. Which, regardless what You may think, I don't generally do. Except when someone reads something into a message that really isn't there.

[wings]

What is the source for the information on 6 Albatros scouts of Jasta 20? I would like to know more about this.

[Billy_Bishop]

There are two sources. Bishop's combat report specifies that he spotted 6 Albatross fighters and one 2-seater.

Records gleaned from the Reich archives in the middle 1930's show that Jasta 20 was moving North about this time, and specifies a flight of 6 Albatross fighters and one LVG 2-seater. This was reported to the Canadian Senate by Stewart K. Taylor, Official Historian of WWI flyers in Canada.

[wings]

What is the source for the information on 6 Albatros scouts of Jasta 20? I would like to know more about this.

[Billy_Bishop]

Reich Archives were the general source.