How Those Bad Allies Made Germany Invade Poland in 1939

[Rittm]

Michael,
Do I need a reservation for that couch?
Rittm

Then there's Queen Victoria, who failed to raise her grandchildren properly even though they eventually ran Britain, Germany, and Russia...

Some of my early intellectual and moral training came from a five cent pulp paper magazine called "G-8 and His Battle Aces" wherein each month the hero, known only as G-8 (probably to his friends, just G) would lead his Aces into battle in fast SPADs, destroying hundreds of the dreaded red Fokker Triplanes in the process.
Could your name refer to that classical literature?
John

If it hadn't been for Adam and Eve procreating...........

[Paul Forster]

History is a giant chain of events,everything that happens is a result of what happened before. To say the Versailles Treaty had nothing to do with causing WWII is ridicules. All through WWI the Allies' propaganda claimed they were fighting for things like justice and humanity,but as soon as the war ends all they can think of is revenge. There is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to the causes of WWII,that includes the Allies. Being on the winning side doesn't change that. Only by studying the REAL causes of wars ( NOT propaganda ) will we be able to prevent them in the future.

[stephen]

Wait... I'm seeing the light now. The Allies actually started BOTH wars. The scumbags.

[stephen]

Let's think this through. If the perpetrator of a criminal act can justifiably blame his motivation for his actions (i.e., "he was gonna hit me if I didn't hit him first), then only unmotivated criminal actions can be punished. Thieves are motivated by a need for money, murderers are motivated by hatred or anger at another individual. In fact, I cannot think of a truly unmotivated crime. So, instead of prosecuting the criminals themselves, should we instead be prosecuting the people who were indirectly involved in creating the motivation for their crimes? Put the victim on trial and set the perpetrator free? Think, people, think. Did Versailles result in WWII? As a strictly historical observation, maybe so. As a justification... no way.

(I just knew I could make a 30+ thread!! I knew it!!)

I hate to be a fly in the ointment (actually I kinda like it) on the 'he was gonna hit me if I didn't hit him first' thing but If I found myself in an Israel 1967 type situation I think I would perhaps follow their example, rather than wait for the inevitable first blow. Of course by this same logic, Poland should have attacked Germany and Russia simultaneously in August 1939(hehe).

I think Billy Bishop started it all so he could get the VC... and then he blamed it on the Germans.

I started all of it!

Yes--My cyber ID refers to the pulp magazine "G-8 and His Battle Aces." While my real identity must remain a state secret (they still haven't noticed all the Aerodrome Forum access here at The Company in Langley, VA) suffice it to say I'm not old enough to have been an original reader of the series.
He Was Gonna Hit Me First: the '67 Israeli op is of course an excellent example--same thing applied in '73 though the pre-emption came from the other direction. Hitler launched Barbarosa in '41 figuring that Stalin would Do Unto Him, so there's plenty of examples from all across the spectrum.
As Rodney King said, "Hey, can't we all get along?"