Red Baron 3,soon to be

Hello again,once more i have a problem,in Red Baron 1,u can only have the chance of flying on the "Alled" side,and i don't think that is fair to any country....not to mention the game isn'tm the great anyway.In Red Baron 2,u can fly in a couple different countries,such as,BRITISH,GERMAN,FRENCH
and AMERICAN....where are the Canadian's! The Russians!
Italian's!!!.....I am seriously thinking of sending a letter
to Sierra!!!! it really ticks me off when Canada and other
countries are not included!!!!!

On the subject of the Canadians: did they not fly for the British? I can understand about the Russians and the Italians, but did Raymond Collishaw fight for the RNAS? William Bishop, was he not a member of the RAF or RFC? Are those not British Squadrons? Or do you want to enlist as a Canadian and just simply be transfered into the British?

On the same token, I could be, as a patriotic German, griping about the absence of Austria-Hungary? There were a number of great Austrian Aces that flew in their own air force...but I'm not doing it, because, again, it is a game- Red Baron II, that is.

And why can't you fly Recon and Bomber Machines? My brother complains about that. Is that so hard to animate, being a pilot...or an observer?

The point I am getting at: Red Baron II is a game, and a highly excellent one at that. I was a devoted fan of Red Baron I, in its heyday. I just don't think that this is an important factor. You can do whatever you want with Sierra, but again, it's a game. Fly the planes, enjoy yourself, and don't get all worked up about it!

Hans

I don't care if they flew for the BRITISH or not,u think they could of made there own Air force.and there own squadern's!!!! unless the goverment was run Crotch-an

[Billy_Bishop]

Dan, Dan, Dan. You've got it all wrong again!

First, in Red Baron I, you could fly a campaign as EITHER a pilot for the British Empire, or you could fly in the German Air Servcie.

In Red Baron II, you can still fly in the German Air Service, and the RFC/RAF, or, the French Air Service, OR the US Air Service.

Second, the Canadians didn't have seperate squadrons from the rest of the RFC, they were lumped in with the REST of the British Empire. Only the Australians ever had there own squadrons when the Australian Flying Corps was established in January of 1918.

Billy Bishop was supposedly pulled from the front in the summer of 1918 to start forming a Canadian Air Force, but the war ended before it the Canadian squadrons could even be formed.

Third, Red Baron I and II only cover the Western Front, so, no Italians or Russians. They had their own fronts. Which also leaves out the Austro-Hungarians, they were only on the Italian and Russian Fronts. (As far as I know, anyway.)

As far as the Belgians go, well, I dunno. You'll have to ask Sierra/Dynamix about that.

Best Regards to All,

Al Lowe 'Honourary Canadian Citizen'
"On the edge of destiny, you must test your strength. "
-Billy Bishop

[Billy_Bishop]

As far as Red Baron (I) not being that good...Well, if you're comparing it to todays' flight sims, you're right. But when it first came out, it was the cream of the Crop. It's what EVERY WWI flight sim was compared to, and most were found wanting compared to Red Baron.

And it still has something that Red Baron II doesn't have, the flight recorder. I really miss that feature.

Best Regards,

Al Lowe 'Honourary Canadian Citizen'
"On the edge of destiny, you must test your strength. "
- Billy Bishop

The canadians did have two squadrons in ww1 , 1 CAF and 2 CAF , they both bore the white maple leaf insignia on their rudders , 1 flew Dolphins , 2 flew DH4's , unfortuneately , they didnt become operational before the war ended , but i think they did get to france.

As too the other air forces , there are patches being made that allows u to fly for the belgians , australians , and two patches being developed for a Palestinaian theatre and a Austrio HUngarian theatre , as well as a russian theatre ( eastern front balkans , macedonia etc ) but they take time .

here are couple of websites with ready made customisations and info ,

http://www.golden.net/~ksharman/rb/Main.html

http://www.cagesworld.com/RedBaron2/index.htm

but like i said more is on the way , we are however short on info for austria , italy , macedonia and balkans , if anyone has info on squadrons , aerodromes , dates , aces etc etc and schemes , pls feel free to mail me about it so we can make the theatre patches 100% accurate.

cam

[mike_baram]

What I miss are the suicide missions (considering my flying abilities, "suicide" is the key word here) against balloons and Zeppelins; they're not included in the "Fly Now" feature in RBII.

The RNAS was a seperate entity from the RFC. They had their own squadrons, and their high-ranking officers came from the Navy. Their methods of confirming aircraft kills were stricter than the RFC as well, so it's entirely possible RNAS pilots like Collishaw had many more kills than is listed officially. (like that didn't happen to just about everyone! Also, the RNAS were funny about balloons. They were not counted as "aircraft" in pilot's scores and though they were supposed to be on a seperate list, more often than not pilots got no credit for the balloons they shot down.

Melinda

Well...I can say this much for the exclusion of the Ruskies. They took a raincheck on the WW1 deal during the most intense phase of the air war. Not to mention that they got their butts flattened. Let's faceit... other than the Morraine-Souliner monoplane and few weak designs they didn't have squat for aeroplanes. They might as well have had hang gliders and pop guns.
As for the Italian air "farce", they should steer clear of warfare period, their examples in the 20th century are tell tale of that. After Rome burned centuries ago, they should have stuck with pasta.

Hi Stacey,

actually, with Russia and Italy you have the two nations that virtually invented the strategic bombing. The Sikorsky Ilia Mouroumetz was the best strategic bomber of the war. In early versions it flew in 1914. Only one was ever lost to German fighters.
On the Adria, the Italians had on several occasions up to 200 bombers over Pola, the main Austrian marine base. The Caproni-bombers were very well constructed long range bombers.

regards

Axel