Museum Aircraft Photos

Just updated the photographs on the WWI aircraft museum page with photos from the National Air and Space Museum and Rhinebeck closing day 99. It also has aircraft from Champlin, Planes of Fame, USS Intrepid and some more Rhinebeck shots, which all may be of interest.

The page is at :

http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/artattack/rhinebeck99.htm



cam

[wingstrutdotcom]

Great photos!

There I saw a pic of a reproduction SSW. Is that a static display repro or built to fly???

>There I saw a pic of a reproduction SSW. Is that a static display repro or built to fly???<

I got told all the aircraft at Planes of Fame Valle were in airworthy condition. I dont think they had flown it in a while though, maybe it was flown in California at that part of the Museum. The SSW was originally built ot fly though. Rhinebeck has an SSW on display as well.


cam

[leo]

cam:

Thanks for the lead to the pictures. I was excited to see the Berg Fighter. This one, Series 101.40 was part of an order for 51 placed with the Aviatik licensee Thon and Fiala. It is doubtful that it saw action in the livery of the KuK LFT as only 25 had been delivered at wars end. It may have flown for the Austrian or Hungarian Republics or may have been sold to one of the other neighboring states. With the Daimler 200 HP engine,it had a top end of 121mph and could climb to 3000 meters in7 minutes and 36 seconds. This was a better performance than the Alb Diii (OEF), but the plane had a reputation of having weak wing structure and was not popular with pilots for that reason. I hope to travel to see it. Again, THANK YOU!

leo

They are beautiful photos Cam.
One small query is the Snipe a late one (counter-balanced ailerons and enlarged rudder) if so its not quite right for E8082.
Not that I'm complaining mind you. I think you know I think any Snipe is a good Snipe.

Cheers

[Vigilant]

Top pictures Cam! Especially liked the D.VII showing off its climb rate with smoke.

If anyone still has an apetite to see more WWI a/c photos, my Shuttleworth ones can be found at http://members.tripod.co.uk/Vigilant/oldwarden.html

Vigilant

[leo]

Great photos, Mr. Vigilant. The Bristol is my favorite Allied plane.

Thank you

leo

>One small query is the Snipe a late one <

yep, it was hard to catch it on film as the aircraft was high in shadow and my flash was too weak.

I just got a mail back from the US NASM saying they looked up the AFC and agree that it wasnt the RAFC. The NASM said they will change their displays at the next oppurtunity replacing the Royal Australian Flying Corps with Australian Flying Corps as it should be. Which is great.

Their Snipe is one of four that came out to the US for trials, it was originally a two seater as well. It seems Two seaters survived scrapping longer. There are a few two seater orig scouts in Museums.

Leo : the Berg is one of three original aircraft that were there. One of the volunteers at Champlin told me that it got converted to a two seater soon after the war and he made the claim it was the first airliner or something of that sort. It was as a single seat scout on display.

On that note, the volunteers at Champlin ( and CAF, AZ ) are wonderful. I ended up chatting to one bloke for a long time ( as well as Col Hatch at the CAF ). After shaking hands and parting, we met him again in another part of the museum and we chatted more, he told us how he ground looped a Texan and put a tiny dent in it's wing, which he found out later cracked a spar and as the wings came in pairs on that aircraft, a small dent became a large report to fill out. If you get the chance to go there, pencil in time to chat to the volunteers as well as have a goose at the planes. They make the place very personable and the experience memorable.

The upper wing ailerons on the Snipe :