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Old 8 November 1999, 02:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Under the aircraft statistic section of the Forum, there are listed the numbers of machines produced in each of the warring nations as well as their losses and numbers of planes on the Front in 1914 and 1918. The number of Austrian losses is not recorded nor is the number of planes at the front in 1918. I should also like to find out how many German planes were imported and to what extent the Russian Anatra bi-planes were used bu Austrian Forces. Of course, I would like to know the extent of Austrian losses 1914-1918 and the number of planes at the Front in 1918. Can anyone point the way.

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Old 8 November 1999, 07:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hallo Leo,

I found the following numbers. Groehler wrote in "Geschichte des Luftkriegs" (don't know his sources) AH had 48 aircraft, 1 airship and 12 balloons mobilised in 1914. He is also saying AH lost 360 airmen in WWI.

Herbert Molloy Mason wrote in "Die Luftwaffe", German, page 31 that after the end of the war Germany was still possesing 18,500 and AH was owning 1,279 aircraft and 3515 engines. Don't know how many of the latter were in active front service.

I remember that a number of 1,000 aircraft was exported by Germany to other neutral and alliied states. I would guess AH got the major share (800?) but maybe this number of 1000 is too low.
Source was maybe Neumann, don't remember.

Groehler gave also production numbers for AH:
1914: 70,
1915: 238,
1916: 931,
1917: 1714,
1918: 2438.
Alltogether 5,391.

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Old 9 November 1999, 07:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi
I have A-H personal strength at the front for the first six month of 1918, taken from their "Nachrichtenblatt" as follows:
Southwest Front
Jan 202 P + ? O
Feb 224 P + ? O
Mar 307 P + 250 O
Apr 379 P + 277 O
May 369 P + 275 O
Jun 397 P + 267 O
XIX Korps
Jan 5 P + ? O
Feb 3 P + ? O
Mar 13 P + 11 O
Apr 5 P + 4 O
May 13 P + 14 O
Jun 15 P + 12 O
East Front
Jan ? P + ? O
Feb ? P + ? O
Mar 8 P + 13 O
Apr 12 P + 13 O
May 20 P + 20 O
Jun 14 P + 15 O
These can give an indication of how many aircrafts which were on the front. P=pilot O=obs
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Old 10 November 1999, 03:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you for your information. I have been in contact with one of our Italian members of the Forum. He claims that the Italian Airforce claimed 400 Austrian victories, that did not include italian naval victories, and I have seen figures that the Brits claimed another 600. Paolo, our Italian correspondent figures the Brits got another 400. Any comments?

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Leo,

Above the War Fronts said "The Italians found British claims to be out of proportion - 550 victories in a few months, against 633 Italian claims for the entire war - and could seldom find corrobation in the form of wrecks or aircrew."

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Paolo has informed me that I had my figures wrong. Please see his thread of 11-16-99.

Paolo, please accept my apology. I trtird to recall your message from memory. Big mistake!

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