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Old 21 September 1999, 05:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone,
Just came across a map in a Military Atlas of WW1, which outlines a bombing raid carried out by a single Handley-Page bomber.
It took off from Hendon on the 22nd May 1916, via Paris,Lyons, Marseilles, Toulon, Frejus,Pisa, Rome, Naples, Otranto, and Salonika, finally arriving at the island of Mudros in the Aegean Sea on the 8th June.
At midnight on the 9th of July it dropped 8 bombs on the SMS Goeben then at anchor in Stenia Creek, just off Constantinople, causing only slight damage.

Anyone know who these intrepid flyers were??

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Old 21 September 1999, 06:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Let me look here. I have a picture of this plane & it's crew.
The plane left in 1917 & along with it's crew commanded by Kenneth Savory was Commodore Murray F. Sueter. They made bombing raids on the Goebon & on Constantinople. On September 30,1917 the HP piloted by J.Alcock(yes It's him) tried another run at Const, but were forced down in the Gulf of Xeros.

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Old 21 September 1999, 09:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Keith,
Many thanks, you sure about the date as being 1917??
Only I thought the Goeben had been sunk or disabled by then..
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Old 22 September 1999, 02:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure, my papers have it listed as leaving England on May 23, 1917. Also, I don't think the Goeben was sunk.....Maybe confused with sister ship Breslau that hit a mine in the Aegean?

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Old 22 September 1999, 02:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Goeben was neither sunk or seriously disabled in 1917. She served in the Turkish Navy until 1936 as the Jawuz Sultan Selim and afterwards as the Yavuz. She was decommissoned in 1960. launched as a sister ship to the Moltke in 1911. Displacement 22,640 tons.
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Old 22 September 1999, 02:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you both, for your invaluable help..
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Old 22 September 1999, 09:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Keith,
Do you know if the H.P was forced down by enemy
aircraft,AA or because of engine trouble ..etc?
Was it destroyed or rescued in some way.
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Old 22 September 1999, 09:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Engine trouble.

Not quite sure if it survived, but if the crew was only POW I'd say it didn't take much damage.

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Old 22 September 1999, 10:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Chaz Bowyer says in Hnadley Page Bombers of WW1
that the aircraft took anti-aircraft fire and lost a propeller and reduction gear shortly afterwards. The aircraft nosed over on landing and the crew swam for the shore and were captured the following day.
 
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I have found a very interesting aticle of the CC Vol 19/3 from 1978:
"The Turkish aviation history reveals some additional information about the loss of the destroyer Yadikari millet on the Night of 9/10 July 1917 by the bombing raid of Handley Page 0/100, serial number 3124,RNAS.
According to the Turks the aircraft dropped four bombs in the Stenia area(now Istinye). Two of the missiles fell into orchads. Another hit the water between the Turkish destroyer Numenei hamiyet and Yadikari millet moored abreast near the Goeben.
The last bomb exploded on the deck of Yadikari millet. Because the compartment bulkheads were not strong the vessel slowly flooded and SANK in 45 minutes. One midshipman and 25 sailors were killed and nine seamen injured aboard the Yadikari millet. Only slight damage was sustained by Numenei hamiyet, but four seamen were killed."
The author of this article was Richard T Whistler.
If this story is correct, the crew certainly ought to recieve the Victoria Cross...
Do someone knew what recognition they got?
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