Who is Buried in MvR's Grave?

According to P.J. Carisella, in his book, he exhumed the skeleton of MvR, which was missing the skull. When the Germans re-buried it in 1920, who supplied the rest of the skeleton? And, what did the Germans do with the skeleton Carisella gave them in the 1960's? Were there TWO MvR's in WW-I, as there were two Montgomeries, two Hitlers and dozens of Kilroys in WW-II?

Dont forget Michael's recently discovered three Manocks

Jean Luc

Grant.

If Grant is in Richthofen's grave,does that mean Richthofen is in Grant's tomb?Could this age old mystery be solved at last !

If MvR and Grant were changed,
I'm sure we'd hear from the deranged!

If, as Carisella said, the Germans only buried his skull in the cemetery in East Berlin, would it be proper to say: "I'm going to visit MvR's grave." or "I'm going to visit the head"?

When MvR crash-landed his plane after receiving a head wound, he was brought into a Belgian Hospital still wearing a pair of custom made designer flying goggles.
A moment later, the doctor heard Manfred scream and he looked up to see a nurse standing over his gurney, holding a pair of bloody scissors.
"No, no!" the doctor shouted, "I said SLIP off his SPECTACLES!"

Jeni, Jeni, up in the blue,
Why don't we hear more from you?

Carisella apparently didn't realize the gravesite had been reused, subsequent to the, disinterrment by the Germans. He had the remains of some other individual. He delivered a quantity of these bones to the office of the German Air Attache in Paris where they, and his story, were seen as a bit macabre to say the last! Carisella apparently kept a thigh bone and had it under glass in his home: Apparently here the thinking being that if "Saints relics" ie. fingers, hands, are on view at shrines and similarly displayed, then why couldn't he have MvR's thighbone under glass? (Hmm? Saint Manfred?!) The foregoing was told to me some years back -I'm quite certain my conversation was with Hugh Wynne who was a founding figure of the U.S. Cross & Cockade Society. Carisella according to Wynne, was also dubious of the Luke-Murvaux incident. His story was that in the '30s he had corresponded with the German officer who was active at the scene when "26" hit the ground. The German recalled no determined gunplay on the part of the flyer. The letter from the mayor et al certainly stands in opposition to the recollections of the Kaiser's man on the scene. Does anyone have anymore on the Murvaux letter? Has Carisella's research survived? Is the original "Letter from Murvaux" in anybody's possession? I first encountered it in Hartney's "Up And At'em" (first pub'd. in 1938). Does the letter have earlier appearances in WWI literature? I stand with the Luke story as generally accepted; there have been so many other "They'll never take me alive!" scenarios that there is every reason to believe Luke preferred death to captivity. Billy?, Stephen? Any thoughts on the above from you- and others of course- would be appreciated. VBR. LEB

[stephen]

Lee, I'll start a seperate thread to address your question titled "Luke Affidavit."

The ultimate answer is:

Manfred von Richthofen is burried in WIESBADEN. Though it is possible, that "some of his bones" got lost - e.g. by the French, who brought him from Bertagles to Fricourt,
or on his way from Fricourt to Berlin,
or on his way from Berlin to Wiesbaden.