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20 November 2000, 01:39 PM
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Brown was many miles away when MvR was hit. Brown broke off pursuit before MvR chased May onto Morlancourt ridge. No eyewitness to the incident saw anybody or anything in pursuit of the triplane. Just the two planes, a Camel and a DRI.
The British government credited two Australian Lewis gunners with bringing the triplane down. Buie and Evans were named. Actually, it was neither, thoughj both shot at the tripe. It was C.B. Popkin, firing a heavy Vickers gun who inflicted a fatal wound. The bullet passed through both lungs and the ehart. Death was in seconds. Brown had broken off the chase some three miles before MvR was hit.
The letter to papa was fiction. Brown never made a claim. As a matter of fact, another pilot had also claimed to have brought down a red triplane the same day. All wiashful thinking and nonsense.
MvR lived only seconds after being hit over the Aussie F.A. battery, and eyewitnesses described how the plane shook as he took a death grip on the stick and convulsed. He was dead when the tripe crashed into a pile of mangel beets.
What next? Will Canada erect a monument to Billy Mitchell claiming preposterous things?
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20 November 2000, 01:51 PM
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If I may repeat myself from an earlier thread? I once heard a program drung the year before the US got involved in WWII. The program was called, "We The People" It featured interviews with people who had been involved in unusal happenings. One of those persons interviewed was Captain Roy Brown. In the interview all he said was that, "He had a crack at an all-red Fokker." He did not, to the best of my memory, claim that he had caused the Fokker to crash as a result of his "crack". The interview was very brief and I remember it quite well.
leo
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20 November 2000, 02:27 PM
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Brown,in fact, filed two combat reports stated he fired on an all red triplane and that it was seen to crash, he then amended the witness to the crash, and added them to the second report
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20 November 2000, 02:47 PM
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Rosebud,
He's the priest.
Vin
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20 November 2000, 03:21 PM
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LOL
Vin, I was talking about the other white figure. To the right of the priest!
Anyways, no-nevermind. This thread has obviously degenerated into "Who shot MvR" banter.
VBR
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20 November 2000, 06:08 PM
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I always thought it was Sue-Ellen Ewing.
vbr
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And dark as the doom we meet.
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And soon shall our pulses rise:
A cup to the dead already-
Hurrah for the next that dies!
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20 November 2000, 07:25 PM
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Darryl
Who
The “ghost” ?
The priest ?
The person who shot down von Richthofen ?
The person who heard von Richthofen say “alles ist kaput” ?
The Observer ?
The Spectator ?
Vin
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20 November 2000, 07:44 PM
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Perhaps it was Rittm
Only The Shadow knows......
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21 November 2000, 12:28 AM
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Vin,
All of them.
It was just on dawn and she was disoriented but she definitely got three, possibly four with the same magic bullet. They were apparently all members of Jasta R (…JR for short). The bullet was later found on a stretcher next to a Grovsner whose first name escapes me for the moment…..and still later lost to history when mistaken for a tooth filling from a prehistoric tiger and ground up by a Chinese herbalist.
After that she ran from a book suppository to a Chinese restaurant where she was picked up by a man named Harold and given a lift in his submarine.
She is listed as MIA shortly thereafter, possibly shot down by 2Lt Dingo a few miles south of Le Roc de Ayers or maybe by ground fire from Gunner “Blue” Heeler of the 19th Highland New South Welsh Kilters (who was apparently a little on the nose).
Of course this was all disputed in “The Lush Who couldn’t Drink” but that film has been widely discredited not least by "Hangover of a Legend", the Miles Pulitzer Award winning book.
I have the references somewhere…………all as taught to us at “Our Lady of the Perpetual Hangover” by Sister Consumpta
regards to you and your charming State
Darryl
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I'm a shadow of my former self, does that count?
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Not here are the goblets glowing,
Not here is the vintage sweet;
'Tis cold as our hearts are growing,
And dark as the doom we meet.
But stand to your glasses, steady!
And soon shall our pulses rise:
A cup to the dead already-
Hurrah for the next that dies!
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21 November 2000, 01:41 AM
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Darryl,
Are you SURE it wasn't the gunman from the grassy knoll near the School Book Depository using plenty of lead with a .600 Nitro Express while trying to "bark" a squirrel? There is after all a rational explanation. ; )
Regards,
Jim 'ACE'
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