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Old 9 December 2001, 04:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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According to French records there were three fighter pilots taken prisoner this date, 12 April 1917.

Carre, as mentioned above.

Adj-Chef Georges Chemet, N 112, flying Spad VII #1200

MdL Benjamin de Tascher, N 26, flying Spad VII #184, forced to land at Attigny, cause unknown. He later escaped and rejoined N 26.

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Old 9 December 2001, 10:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Bill,
could you have something mixed up?

Didn't N.26 (de Tascher) fly against German 7th army ?
Alltough 3rd Army was neighbouring it seems more likely to me that Chamet with Nieuport XVII was landing in Attigny as his N.112-colleague Carré did in Leffincourt, both because of stormy weather (as Rammjäger found out).

Could you send me a private mail with your address ? I will send you a photo of Nieuport 1276 for your further resaerch in this special case.

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Old 10 December 2001, 04:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
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N 26 moved to Bonne-Maison on 1 April 1917,
De Tascher became lost and landed in German territory.

The GC 12 Resumes des Operations state: "Maréchal-des-Logis de Tascher (Pilote) de l'Esc N 26, parti en patrouille à 5 h. 30 n'est pas rentre." As you see the location is not given, I am not sure where the location came from.

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N 26 moved to Bonne-Maison on 1 April 1917,
De Tascher became lost and landed in German territory.

The GC 12 Resumes des Operations state: "Maréchal-des-Logis de Tascher (Pilote) de l'Esc N 26, parti en patrouille à 5 h. 30 n'est pas rentre." As you see the location is not given, I am not sure where the location came from. I agree Attigny would be a bit out of the way for N 26. However, if, as other material I have states, he became lost it is not out of the question, approximately 80 km NE of Bonne-Maison.

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Old 10 December 2001, 06:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Maybe some shortened notes of Kofl 3 can clarify the relations a bit more:

Enemy losses because of misorientation:
10.4.17 - Nieuport-onseater landed O.K. on airfield Alincourt, pilot Corporal [Caporal] Chantorn [or Chantou or similar - r]

12.4.17
- Spad-combat oneseater landed near of Attigny, pilot Souslt. v. Tascher unwounded captured, airplane undamaged

- Nieuport combat oneseater on airfield Leffincourt, pilot Corporal Carré unwounded captured, airplane undamaged

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... or confuse it more ...
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Brigadier Chautard, N 31, made a forced landing in German lines near Aleucourt?, cause unknownm, while flying Nieuport XVII #1930.

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Old 14 December 2001, 09:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Other captured Nieuport-pilots in the sector of the 3rd German Army were
2. April 1917 6 p.m. in the area of Poix-Terron: Adjutant Bartal.
14. May 1917: On the airfield Vouzirs [sp in the document] landed Corporal Le Gras [sp?] because of navigational error, unwounded. *
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Old 14 December 2001, 11:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Rammjäger,

hopefully Bill is able to add the Escadrilles to your new names. It is astonishing as many French Nieuport-pilots went astray to land on German airports during that period. Did some of them had a contract to deliver factory-new machines to Idflieg?
By the way, where did you get those information from? Kofl 3 reports?

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Once again stealing shamelessly from Bill Bailey's research:

*2Apr17 *Adj. Georges Bertal, Esc. N 23, Nie 17 #2243

14May17 *Cpl. Legras, Esc. N 112, Nie 17 #2920 * *R.
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