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11 November 2001, 04:08 PM
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Howdy all, once again I have just returned to CONUS. I am glad this sight is still alive and well. Anyway to my question:
On page 21 of Osprey’s “American Aces of WW1” is that well-known photograph of the Nieuport 17 flown by Kenneth Marr but belonging to  Edwin Parsons. The text briefly describes how Marr overshot his landing and flipped the aircraft up against a railroad embankment. The pictures show the port side of the aircraft with one of his personal insignias present sans the N.124 Indian head. The serial number cannot be made out from the photo.On page 153 of Dennis Gordon’s “Lafayette Escadrille Pilot Biographies” is a photograph of another flipped over Nieuport 17? Serial (N-2551)? belonging to Parsons. This picture shows the starboard side of the aircraft with what appears to be some of his ID bands visible and this aircraft has the early style N.124 Indian head. Ok, here is my question: Is this a photo of the same plane taken from different angles before the Indian head could be painted on both sides or did Parsons just happen to be unlucky enough to have photographic evidence of two of his planes being smashed up? These are things I think about when the TV is broken. Semper Fi. Raven One sends. Nick Vitale GySgt Of Infantry (CWO2/Gunner Select)
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13 November 2001, 03:29 PM
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Gunny, I don't have it with me but ECP's very readable memoir "The Great Adventure" (aka "I Flew With the Lafayette Escadrille") may have had both pix. At least I recall seeing both in one spot. Might be worth a look.
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13 November 2001, 07:23 PM
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Gunner,
congrats on the promotion. Leave the TV broken. Check Flammer's "The Vivid Sky" as well for Lafayette Escd. history. I'm away from home or I'd check on Parson's smash-ups for you. Not unusual for pilots of the era to go thru lots of crack-ups. cheers, Boom
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15 November 2001, 10:42 AM
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Nick
I'd say that it isn't the same crash - different ground layout and different damage to the aircraft. And probably not the same plane. The stripes on 'ECP' look to be further forward than the 'Seminole Head' plane. I get the impression that the Lafayette was more interested in combat than painting their aircraft and so wouldn't have bothered painting out previous markings. Cliff |
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