John Kennedy Jr.

I saw a show on E the other day on John,John.
They pretty much infered,he had more plane than he could
handle,and that he wasn't trained to fly with instraments
Anybody familar with the plane he had,and what he did
wrong and what he should have done or known,that he didn't

His mistake was flying over a long stretch of water at night in weather conditions that were marginal. Overflying water on a moonless night is tough, you don't have the lights below you to provide a visual horizon, like you would over land. Add a bit of fog or haze to that and a low time, VFR only pilot can get in trouble fast, especially if he was distracted by his passengers.

[mike_baram]

I took this paragraph from my web page about flying lessons.
(http://www.olywa.net/mbaram/flight.htm)

It pretty well illustrates what Kennedy's problem was.
At least I had my instructor to help me out of the jam.
(Lynn came along for the ride. We were in a Cessna C-172.)

"We headed back toward Olympia, making a southward detour around the mountains to come up through the Chehalis Valley. As we passed over Rochester, I made a circle, trying to show Lynn the Lucky Eagle Casino from a bird's eye view. As I circled at 1,500 feet with a 30° right hand bank, I suddenly entered a cloud. I was briefly, but totally, disoriented. My body told me one thing while the instruments told me another. I realized that if I had a problem, Jeff would get us out of it, but I fought to hold the nose up and level the wings. It's frightening not knowing where up is, and when we emerged from the cloud and my blood pressure returned to normal, I found that I had dropped a couple of hundred feet. I definitely need more time with instruments."

[Brad]

Hmmm... I have flown under the hood, but never in "real" instrument conditions... but even the hood feels pretty peculiar!

Brad

[Barrett]

John-John was killed by the Kennedy Family Curse.
Arrogance.

It wasn't only arrogance that killed him. The hero of Chappaquiddick had all of the family on board immediately dunked in the briny, making it obvious that an autopsy would show things he didn't want all of those Democrats out there to know.

Nice to see some Republicans comments, always
known for there warm hearts.

[mike_baram]

Nice to see some Republicans comments, always
known for there warm hearts.

Wait until you've read "The Dark Side of Camelot" by Seymour Hersh, a man with impeccable liberal credentials.
Dislike of the Kennedys is well-founded.
Papa Joe was a philandering bootlegger.
Jack, Bobby, and Teddy No-Pants treated women as their personal property.
And, if it hadn't been for the mob, Jack would never have won the West Virginia primary, nor the general election in Illinois.
Really, I don't get mad at them being scum. I do get mad at their being apotheosized.
(OK, Pandora, I'm closing the box now.)

I never thought I'd see anybody the Conservatives
hated as bad as Bobby Kennedy.
But I think Bill and probably Hilliary have
taken over the top spot.

[Amy]

Nice to see some Republicans comments, always
known for there warm hearts.

And then there are those "warm hearts" of the Kennedy's... Chappaquidick, rape accusations, sleeping with underage-babysitters, etc.

When John John was missing, the Coast Guard and Navy were sent working overtime to find the plane/bodies. *How often does that happen for old unknown Joe Blow? *And then when the bodies are located, they are fast-tracked to a burial at sea aboard a Navy ship, while other families were waiting weeks to have their loved ones buried at sea--loved ones who actually served in the military. *

Where were the Kennedys' "warm hearts" when it came to those people they trampled over to get that burial at sea quickie?

JFK jr's fortune was estimated at around $100 million. *And yet who paid for all that search, recovery, and burial mess? *