Roy Brown Believers in Action

Boy, say something about not believing that Roy Brown killed the Baron and CRASH. What a bunch of sore losers!

[Graeme]

Mind you, I hear a bunch of Aussies are claiming credit now!

Graeme

I remember visiting RAF Cranwell a few years ago and I was assured that Snoopy had shot down the Red Baron and that they had the pictures to prove it.

There, you see how it goes with British records? Mr. Schultz NEVER EVER drew a strip where Snoopy shot down the Red Baron; it was always the other way around!

[mike_baram]

Why don't we leave the question to the Florida voters to decide?

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Mike:
In my recent research in MvR's demise, I found that he was shot between the dimple and his hanging chad, however I would like have a hand recount by the Aussies on that assumption. I think he may have been gored!
Blue skies,
Dan-San Abbott

In 1937 or 38, I met a fellow a couple of years older than I was, who took me to his house to see his air rifle. During that half day visit, I met his mom, who showed me a collection of medals and photographs hanging in the hallway. She told me that her husband had been an aviator in the World War. I can remember the Croix de guerre and photos of Nieuports.
The man's name was Bert Hall, but lately I discovered that his first name was Herbert, and he was not the Bert Hall who was ejected from the Lafayette Escadrille. The uncannay part is that he told us about the "Galloping Goose" train in the Southwest that THE Bert Hall had knowledge of.
My question is this: Could there have been TWO Bert Halls, or was this strange person impersonating the original. (At the time, THE Bert Hall had been imprisoned at McNeil Island Federal Pen, just a few miles from where we lived.) Curiouser and curiouser.
The man I knew was a burglary suspect and pool shark as well as a general grifter who never held a job, but always came up with money (during the depression, yet.)
Before I die, I'd like to know if he was really a pilot with French Aviation, or an outright fraud. How can I find the answer?

John L,

excavating the deceased's gravesite in the name of historical research is one way to aquire the desired information. This is especially useful if the gentleman has not yet died. Failing this, consult German records for an indisputable account of the truth on the matter.

I bow to your expertise at exhumations. However, mr. Carisella, at one point during the '60's had the Baron.s spine and other bones except for the skull in his possession, since the Germans only re-interred the skull. He did not note any bullet deflection from the spine. It would have left damage, and he founmd none. So much for the modified reports on the autopsy. There was no mention of trying to determine who had killed the Baron at the autopsy, only to positively identify the deceased. When there is an exit wound and the fatal projectile is missing, there is little chance of identifying the gun it came from. And, in retrospect, the rifling marks would have been identical from the guns on a Camel and Popkin's watercooled Vickers. At nbo time was Brown AHEAD of May anmd MVR. He would have had to be to come in from the side at a right angle and below. He was always behind the Baron, and it was not a backshot.

I've always found it interesting that if you reverse the exit and entrance wound than Brown is perfectly positioned if you accept that the Baron turned his body to look over his left shoulder as Brown approached. In other words with Brown above and to his left the bullet would have entered below the left nipple and existed below the right armpit. Sit in a chair and than turn your body around to look up and to your left (where Brown was) and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Yeah, yeah, I know what the autopsies say about the exist and entrance wounds. However the 1st autopsy reversed them, and the last 2 were done in a manner which a good litigation attorney today could easily chew to mincemeat. Quite frankly it would be more conclusive if the exit and entrance wounds were in positions which did not match Browns account either way.