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3 April 2001, 07:48 AM
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I was wondering after reading about the smithsonian
exhibit,if any of the Fokker triplanes are still
intact anywhere?
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3 April 2001, 08:11 AM
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In a word - no.
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3 April 2001, 09:04 AM
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Even though there are no "real" Dr.Is in existence there are two very accurate reproductions that are flying these days. One is based in France as part of the Memorial Flight. It flies in Jasta 14 markings and has been refitted with a 130 h.p. Clergét rotary. It had a 160 h.p. Le Rhone earlier and wore Carl Bolle's Jasta 2 markings. The second was built by Fred Murrin who recently flew it at the Dayton Fly In and had to make an emergency landing when the 80 h.p. Le Rhone stopped. The photographs of these accurate replicas in realistic finish give you an idea of what the real machines must have been like. When comparing photographs of originals vs. these two, the builders, Eberhardt Fritsch and Fred Murrin need to be congratulated for their diligence in accuracy.
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3 April 2001, 12:05 PM
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At the OKC Air and Space museum, there is what I must assume to be a replica. It is painted in the Hollywood "Red Baron" fire-engine-red, but it has (I think) an Oberuesal rotary and a 'scimitar' prop. Nearby is a display of a perhaps 2" square piece of maroon fabric from MvR's plane, souveniered and donated by a RFC mechanic. also there id a piece of black fabric from W. Voss' plane. Real? Who knows?
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3 April 2001, 12:11 PM
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Come to think of it, the DR-1 in question has a cut back cowling that is more of a half shroud over the cylinder heads, a SS firewall, and a wooder roller on the tail skid. I am pretty sure these are not "stock".
There is no indication, however, of who actually built it.
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3 April 2001, 02:01 PM
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Mike is right. According to the USAF Museum, absolutely no original Fkkr Dr1's still exist.
Sad but true.
VBR
Kirby
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3 April 2001, 05:20 PM
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Champlin Fighter Museum in Mesa Arizona has a replica with a "genuine" rotary in it. They also have an original Pfalz DXII, Neiport 28, & Aviatic. Other WWI aircraft are all replicas, some with original engines, others with radials. The collection includes a Spad XIII, Albatros DVA, Camel, Pup, Fokker DVII, Taube, Fokker DIII,
Neiport 27, Snipe, Thomas Morse, & Fokker DVIII. Pretty impressive collection. The WWII section is pretty nice too with an FW190D!!! How many of those are still around. This whole collection was recently bought by The Museum Of Flight in Seattle and will be moving sometime in 2003 I believe. The FW190 wasn't purchased and is on the market now for $4 million. Save your pennies up!
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3 April 2001, 05:23 PM
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I believe that the only surviving original Dr.1 was destroyed in bombing of Berlin in WW2, where it was in a museum.
The lack of original aircraft and complete factory drawings led to heated debates over the shape of the fuselage, which I'm not sure is resolved even today. There were schools who believed the tubing for the top decking of the rear of the fuselage had a slight curve and others who believed it straight. Various photographic analyses still had a tough time resolving this question...some angles and individual aircraft made it appear curved and others not. Depending on the age of the reproduction and the builder, you'll find it either way in today's reproductions.
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3 April 2001, 06:36 PM
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Ed:
Your correct, MvR's Fok. DR.I 152/17was displayed at the Zeughaus from 1918 until it was destroyed in a bombing of Berlin. There was a Fok. DR.I at McCook Field after the war along with a lot of other German aircraft. I believe it was purchased by Col. Jarrett and put on display at the Steel Pier in Atlantic City New Jersey in the 1930s. I don't whatever happened to it, It may have been lost in the fire they had there?
Blue skies,
Dan-San Abbott
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4 April 2001, 11:16 AM
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As far as I know the Fokker Dr. 1 of the museum of technology in Berlin (Technikmuseum Berlin) has something like a semi-original Triplane. The fuselage is original and the wings are new. The plane is not in a flying condition.
Volker Nemsch
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