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Old 4 April 2001, 03:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just got Stark's book, "Wing of war" through inter library loan. Found it most interesting reading.

My question is can anyone tell me what happened to the man after the war once the book ended?

Also, on the net are some pictures of his Fokker D-VII. Anyone know what his Dr1 looked like (if he flew one?) if he flew one.

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Old 4 April 2001, 04:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mark,

if you´re interested in Rudolf Stark´s planes, you will have to get Over The Front 13/3, which contains the article "The aircraft of Rudolf Stark" by Terry Web. Beside the DFW C V he flew in FlAbt (A) 296b, the article descibes (and shows photos and drawings of) Pfalz D III 4064/17, Pfalz DIIIa 8155/17 and 8178/17 as well as Fokker D VII 4253/18. Too, Fokker Dr I 148/17 is shown. However, to the best of my knowldege it is not completely clear wether this is really an aircraft flown by Stark (it actually also has been described as 146/17) and wether the fuselage band is actually Stark´s lilac band or still the old marking the plane carried over from it´s former Jasta 11 ownership. Little doubt about the markings of his Pfalz´however, which all carried a lilac fuselage band and prop spinner, as also described in "Die Jagdstaffel unsere Heimat" (and it´s English translation "Wings of War")

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Old 4 April 2001, 04:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Go to http://members.com/_XMCM/profileart/quarte...peg .This is a profile of Starks DVII.
The members here, especially Dan-San Abbott and Peter Leonard have been helping me with the finer points of this scheme. I've been working on a 1/72 version of this a/c since October.It is lovely but rather tedious in the doin' of it.Blast those rib tapes!
I've been meaning to ask Dan-San about Starks Triplane but haven' bothered him about THAT yet.
Hope this helps,
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I tried surfing to:

http://members.com/_XMCM/profileart/...r-dvii-li.jpeg

But I only got an error message.
 
Old 4 April 2001, 09:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Alright Terry , you have my attention, what is it you wish to know?
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Old 5 April 2001, 05:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Dan-San,
Honestly, I do try not to hit on you for everything I wish to know (although you seem to have the answer to most anything I can come up with).
This current curiosity is; is there relatively complete info on the color scheme of Starks triplane? I have no immediate ambitions for this one as I have a lot to do on the D VII and I want to do The Blue Mouse next then a set of Werner Voss Triplanes in several scales.
Thank you for all your kind assistance,
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To my knowledge there re no references in any thing that Rudolf Stark wrote that describes the coloration of his Fok. DR.I 148/17. what you will find are an artist/researcher's interpretations of the photographs of this machine. we know it came from JG. Nr.1 Richthofen's Jasta 11 and reissued to Jasta 34b. So here is mine, again an intrepretation, not solid facts.
1. Jasta 11 unit color was red.
2. Jasta 34b used silvery-white, (aluminum) rear fuselage and empennages as the unit marking. This is not done on dr.I 148/17.
3. Stark's used lilac as a personal color.
Fok. Dr.I 148/17.
4.The aircraft is painted in standard Fokker streaked olive brown camouflage with turquoise blue under-surfaces.
5. Upper wing cross fields were over painted red. Lower wing cross fields, turquoise.
6. Wing crosses are balken style, 900 x 300mm on the wings, 5 00 x125 mm on the fuselage and 600 x150 mm on the rudder. White borders, are, wings, 75 mm, fuselage, 50 mm.
7. Engine hood, lilac.
8. Jasta 11 red, rear fuselage to forward edge of the cross border on all sides and center portion of the tailplane to the third rib on each side and the under side,
9. Lilac, fuselage band 600 mm wide abutting the red red rear fuselage, and the remainder of the tailplane tips on both sides.
10. It has a Garuda propeller.
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Old 7 April 2001, 12:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Part of Marks question concerns the eventual fate of Rudolf Stark. This has been asked before without an answer. Surely someone knows? I'm curious myself.

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