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Old 4 April 2001, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just an interesting comment: I managed to catch a few episodes of "Get Smart" on one of those retro channels last weekend, and to my surprise, one of them featured two nice WWI birds. The dastardly villian was flying a Fokker D. VII, painted up in Ernst Udet's colors, complete with the letters LO! interlocked on the fuselage. Our befuddled hero, Maxwell Smart (Agent 86), took chase of the baddie in a Nieuport 28, all decked out with the hat in the Ring from the 94th Aero. Just thought it was interesting.

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PS- the serial # on the D. VII was 625/18, can anyone say if this was Udet's? If not, whose was it?
 
Old 4 April 2001, 06:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't know about the original Udet aircraft, but the DVII used in this episode of Get Smart was a replica, in the collection of Paul Mantz @ Orange County Airport in California. (now John Wayne)I remember seeing this aircraft and reading about the movies & TV shows it had been used in (including the one you mentioned)when I was in elementary/JR high school. I believe the Paul Mantz collection was sold off in the late 60s, early 70s when Paul's partner, Frank Tallman, was killed in a plane crash. Paul Mantz died in the accidental crash of the "Phoenix" during the filming of Flight Of The Phoenix. (Jimmy Stewart, Richard Attenbourough (sic), think it was in 65 or so)This collection of aircraft had been gotten together to supply aircraft for use in the movies. I remember there was a replica Sopwith triplane, original Thomas Morse, original Neiport of some type, original Jenny, and various WWII aircraft, and tons of interesting equipment/props used for movie work. This is probably where my interest in WWI aircraft started. (besides the fact that my grandfather was in the Imperial German Airforce in WWI)
 
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To heck with the D-VII. What was Agent 99 doing?
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Old 5 April 2001, 04:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Barrett: "To heck with the D-VII. What was Agent 99 doing?"

She was still in makeup, looking for just the right towel. That was the famous lost episode--the bootleg's worth a lot!
 
Old 5 April 2001, 08:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Agent 99 ....... aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!

The important thing though Max get away from KAOS - did any CONTROL agents get hurt ? I need to know !

I believe in that episode there was film of Max shooting the German KAOS agent down, but since it didn't appear in the Koas-luft records it is now widely assumed Max is a liar and a fraud. Is this true ?
 
Old 5 April 2001, 09:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Actually, the D.VII was REAL. (That is the one episode I have been wanting to see for years!) It was the aircraft owned for many years by Frank Tallman and Paul Mantz. Paul Mantz had died in 1965 while filming "Flight of the Phoenix". The aircraft was one of those used in the 1930's films. It had been re-engined with an Hispano-Suiza for reliability and availability of spares. This aircraft later changed hands again and was resold through the Wings and Wheels auction and is now refurbished and in the Aviodome Museum (I think) in Holland wearing Dutch markings of the early postwar period. It has a Mercedes reinstalled and also twin LMG 08/15 machine guns. It is in the Olive Green finish with the large Orange disks on the fuselage and wing surfaces. The restoration occurred during the late 1980s early 1990s.
 
Old 5 April 2001, 04:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well I have become a pretty decent Expert on Ernst Udet as I am currently writing a book about him. From all the information I have on him and his a/c the people who did that episode did their homework, that indeed was his serial number. Now I am not 100% positive on the ID of it but I am 98% sure. If anyone else has some insight on it let me know so I can update my database of his serial numbers.
 
Old 6 April 2001, 05:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks all. Tony, please be sure to tell us when the book is finished.

John- Max shot down 7 KAOS agents.
well, would you beleive 3?
How about 2 pigeons and a mad goose?

Grant
 
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