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Old 3 July 2001, 05:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking for information on colors, camouflage etc. on the D1.

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Old 3 July 2001, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don, To my knowledge there is no surviving contemporary documentation on the colors used on the Siemens Schuckert D.I (excpet, rpehaps, the combat report noted below), so all we have to go on is that risky business of photo interpretation. Some D.I's exhibit a very pale finish overall; I would imagine that these had clear-doped fabric covering, perhaps bleached - but it was still dark enough that the crosses were painted on white fields. On the other hand, they might have been doped a very pale gray or pale blue. The metal engine colwing often seems to have been painted white with a black rear ring (?). Most operational D.I's were camouflaged on the upper surfaces in sprayed-on tones of at least two colors. I've seen some photos that indicate three colors were used. I'm guessing here, but I'd say the colors were something like a chestnut brown, a dark olive green and a light Brunswick green. On the camouflaged aircraft, the undersides may have been painted light blue.There is an interesting combat report from the crew of F/L Dalison/AM Pinchen of "B" Flight, No. 1 Sdn No. 3 Wing RNAS, from 23 January 1917 : "On return journey was attacked by two German Nieuports. These machines were only marked on the rudder (sic), whilst the fuselage was painted brown and green like a French Nieuport, the only difference being the shape of the engine cowling. Pilots should take special note of this as they are very easily mistaken for French machines." This report was published as part of Bob Pearson's excellent article on No.3 Wing in "OtF", Vol.13, No. 4, p. 303. It certainly sounds to me like they're describing the Siemens Schuckert D.I. I hope that helps. Greg
 
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I disagree withmy very good friend Greg. I think the Siemens-Schukert company only used two colors in the camouflage scheme on the upper and siode surfaces of the SSW D.I, dark green and a rust brown with sky blue under sides. The camouflage scheme was sprayed on the aircraft.
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Old 5 July 2001, 08:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Don, You may be able to get some pretty good stuff from Dick Bennett(janustech@compuserve.com). I have been on a witch hunt for the same info. and Dick provided me with some good doc. Dan-san, good to see you are as active as ever. Don, Dan-San has a nice drawing with color indications in 1/72 scale that you might want to buy from him. It is very reasonable.If you don't mind me asking what are you using it for?
 
Old 5 July 2001, 07:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Planes/SS-D1.htm
 
Old 6 July 2001, 04:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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David, I tried this address and it doesn't work. Have you tried it lately? Oh, and I think "Germans" should be "German"?
 
Old 6 July 2001, 07:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I copied and pasted directly from the post and it worked fine.

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Old 11 July 2001, 12:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you all for the great information, I really appreciate it. I'm making flats for a Blue Max game and wanted it to look as accurate as possible.

Thanks again

Don
 
 

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