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13 November 2001, 02:07 PM
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thanks for the link, I will have to contact Dave and ask some questions. Anyhoo, Does anyone know of a power plant that is reccommended for the Fokker DVII? Im looking for reliability as my Number 1 priority as i intend to fly this project, when finished, quite frequently. Also, any speculation on final cost breakdown and total time in building?? thanks...
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13 November 2001, 02:15 PM
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I'd guesstimate total building time at around 3,000hrs.
Ranger L-440 engines (6cylinder 200hp) converted to run upright seem to be a popular powerplant for Fokker and Albatros replicas, but they develop power at higher RPM than the original engines, so they swing a smaller prop. Dave Watts is going with a geared down Gypsy Queen 260hp 6 cylinder and plans to swing a prop close to original size, IIRC.
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13 November 2001, 02:22 PM
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3000 hours doesnt sound too bad.. hahahaa.. What kind of reputation for reliability does the Ranger motor have? I want total reliablility from the powerplant i choose, as close to bieng "bullet proof" as possible. *also, does anyone know where i can find ( web-links etc) Aviation clothing of that era, including uniforms?? *thanks again...
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13 November 2001, 02:51 PM
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The Rangers are fairly reliable engines (for being 60 years old), they were used in PT-19 trainers during WW II. Like any old engine, they do require a bit of maintenance, and parts are beginning to get fairly scarce.
I'm looking into converting an auto engine right now, I'll post any valuable info about conversions I get here.
If Dan-San's friend manages to get newly manufactured Mercedes engines into production and certified airworthy, all the above will be moot, I'll be going that route for sure! * B)
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13 November 2001, 02:59 PM
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a newer mercedes type engine?? wow that'd be cool... Has Dan-San's friend thought about advertising in Kitplane magazine?? How much would these mercedes engines cost?? what auto engines have you thought about converting? I have given a brief thought to converting a ford 289cid engine over, simply because they are easily buildable for any kind of power range.. from "mild to wild" so-to-speak and parts are very easily available for them at any autoparts store that is worth its salt. I do question, however, whether or not a Ford 289 could fit within the airframe and lines of a Fokker D7.. what do you think??
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14 November 2001, 11:54 AM
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a newer mercedes type engine?? wow that'd be cool... Has Dan-San's friend thought about advertising in Kitplane magazine?? *How much would these mercedes engines cost??
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A bit more info here:
Dan-San, about those new Mercedes engines...
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what auto engines have you thought about converting? *I have given a brief thought to converting a ford 289cid engine over, simply because they are easily buildable for any kind of power range.. from "mild to wild" so-to-speak and parts are very easily available for them at any autoparts store that is worth its salt. *I do question, however, whether or not a Ford 289 could fit within the airframe and lines of a Fokker D7.. what do you think??
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I haven't looked too deep into the auto engines yet (I'm clueless when it comes to engines that drive wheels *:-[ ). I am currently checking out existing conversions, many seem based on Subaru and Geo Tracker 4 cylinder engines. The Ford 289 is a V-6 isn't it? I don't know how well a V type would fit. I suspect an in-line 6 of some sort would be the best bet, I'm not sure who makes an in-line 6 these days.
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15 November 2001, 06:08 AM
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Ford 289's are a small block V8. Ford also produced an inline 6 cylinder motor in those days that fairly easy to acquire, they put out about 200-260 cid. anyhoo, auto conversions sound good.. im thinking about that as well...
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15 November 2001, 06:11 AM
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hey, can anyone give me a confirmation about the original type of engine that the fokker DVII's used?? Ive got a crazy idea that maybe i can manufacture one... with CAD software and CNC type tooling... hmmm... any ideas?
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15 November 2001, 06:48 AM
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Ford also produced an inline 6 cylinder motor in those days that fairly easy to acquire, they put out about 200-260 cid. *anyhoo, auto conversions sound good.. im thinking about that as well... *
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I thought I recalled an in-line 6 in my father's old Ford Grenada(sp?), I would guess it only put out about 100hp though. *
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15 November 2001, 06:50 AM
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hey, can anyone give me a confirmation about the original type of engine that the fokker DVII's used?? *Ive got a crazy idea that maybe i can manufacture one... with CAD software and CNC type tooling... hmmm... any ideas?
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There were several different engines used in the D.VII, contact Dan-San, he's the guy that can give you the detailed lowdown.
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