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Old 6 April 2002, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My grandfather, Harold Saville, RAF squandron 1, was shot by the Red Baron over Germany and escorted to the French border where he crashed. I do not have a date or location. Harold awoke several days later in a hospital in England, survived the war and lived until 1950. I would like to know if the incident was documented and if included in the Red Baron's kills, what number kill.
 
Old 6 April 2002, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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* Sorry, Prop, but I checked 3.5 sources and came up with nothing (the '.5' is when I checked the score of the Baron's brother, Lothar). There is no Saville among them; there is an SE5a from #1 Squadron RAF, victory #77, but even this particular victory is in dispute (and the Baron, for whatever reason, enclosed the aircraft type in quotation marks in his report; it's been suggested that even he wasn't sure as to the type). This is not to say that no aircraft from #1 ever fell to the Baron...
* What makes identification so difficult in this case is that we don't know "where or when"... is it possible that you could give us more details: what aeroplane did Gramps fly? Where was he stationed? Was he a pilot or an observer? How did he know that it was the Baron?
* Of course, the intrigueing possibility exists, as it always has, that this was one victory that the victor wasn't aware of; this would not be the first time that that happened...
 
Old 7 April 2002, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks so much for your reply. Apparantly he did not speak much of the war to my mother other than the occasional comment like ' Billy Bishop is a fraud'. As such I don't have any real details of the incident. I do know he often flew two seaters and dropped and recovered 'spys' behind German lines. I believe he did most of this flying early in the war, including many flights before aircraft were fitted with a gun. I do have his ground school notes which are facinating, but unfortunately no journal. Thanks agian.
 
 

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