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Old 10 June 2006, 10:37 PM #49 (permalink)
CWatson
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Originally Posted by Langdon
Dan-San,
Not all facts as there is a photo of 477/17 with streaky camouflage and late style crosses.
I have never seen a picture of a plane confirmed to be 477/17 in factory finish just the one assumed to be 477/17 at LeChelle under going a cross change. It was my understanding part of the werke number is visible put it in the same range/batch of planes that 477/17 was in. If only one number is not visible it leaves ten planes it could be. Has anyone listed what other Dr.1's delivery numbers fall in this range and if they would be at the same airfield at that time?

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Originally Posted by Langdon
You presume as we do the identity of the aircraft in the photos. What we do know is fact is that 425/17 and 477/17 were aircraft personalised for MvR. What we do know is that 425/17 was painted the way the aircraft was in the photo, you presume 477/17 was also.
I agree both were personalized for him but not at what level, factory, air park, or Jasta level.

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Originally Posted by Langdon
You are yet to concede that 425/17 was at one stage painted with narrow bordered Iron Crosses. In what era would you expect this to have occurred?
Did not most Dr1s have their cross fields reduced? I thought tht was common practice.

Nobody mentioned the rudder remains on 425/17's wreck appears to have never been painted red, why? I do not think they would take the time to put a new rudder on it to change the color. 152/17's was red at one time and it was over painted white at a later date, see the pictures of it post war the white has worn off and showing the red undercoat.

Another thing I would like to know is if the red paint used on 425/17's original red coat matches the red in the cross fields. Why? The photos showing (which are very clear) the inverted "V" plane has a even color on the fuselage and cross fields as if all the red was applied at the same time the Iron Crosses were reduced to just a outline, I do not believe spare red paint would have came with the plane.

To me the remains of 425/17 looks like the plane was red with white crossfields. Then the crossfields were reduced ,then they were altered to strait crosses.

The "V" plane no matter how it came from the factory looks like the red was evenly applied across the fuselage and the crossfield at the same time then at a later date altered to strait crosses.

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