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Dave_Watts · 12 June 2006, 02:47 AM

Hi all,

Dan-San, I don't think our Aerodrome readers are going to miss my "disclaimers". I prefaced my scenario with;

"I like to use my imagination when looking at these subjects and I got to thinking about 425/17. If we go with the premise that MvR's 425/17 was painted red at the factory, with the known facts, we can speculate on a interesting scenario."

Then at the end of the scenario I immediately closed with;

"How do you like that one guys?

How would you further adapt this to fit to a logical/plausable reality?

Dan-San...remember this is a scenario, not what happened. I've blended facts with fiction, or at best, plausible fiction. The timeline is plausible, the facts I've stated are known, it's a nice story."

If I "tricked" anyone, I apologize, this was the farthest thing from my intention.

Now, back to the thread.

CWatson,

Your question of the white rudder on the later photographed upside down "V" blemish aircraft is moot as it is undoubtedly the same aircraft at Lechelle and the "under gaurd" photos. A replaced rudder is the most logical answer as to why an all white rudder. I mentioned that Fred Murrin, who flies a Dr.I replica powered by a 110 Le Rhone said he could see where the rudder would need to be replaced if one flew a lot.

Now addressing the 425/17 vs. 477/17 question, I believe it has been put forth there are no photographs (yet known) of 425/17 before the shots taken of its wreckage on April 22nd. Is that correct?

Just talking out loud. I don't understand why MvR didn't fly 425/17 before 477/17. 425/17 was accepted on January 8th, and 477/17 was accepted sometime in February or March. As Dan-San pointed out, MvR flew 477/17 on March 20th so we surmise that it must have been accepted in early February. That's a month later than 425/17. So why did he get 425/17 a month later than 477/17? At this point in time, no one knows.

I was chatting with Langdon and he asked if the photos taken of MvR in his big fur coat with

LvR sitting on the tire of a Dr.I and beside this plane could possibly be 425/17. Can anyone shed some light on this idea?

What do you think...more likely 152/17 with the blue undersides on the wings.

The wheels are NOT painted red.

Any guesses or timelines of LvR together with MvR after returning from his head injury and I'm guessing before LvR's crash.

Best,
Dave W.

12 June 2006, 02:47 AM	#55 (permalink)
Dave_Watts Forum Ace Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Indy, Home of the 500 race Posts: 623	Hi all, Dan-San, I don't think our Aerodrome readers are going to miss my "disclaimers". I prefaced my scenario with; "I like to use my imagination when looking at these subjects and I got to thinking about 425/17. If we go with the premise that MvR's 425/17 was painted red at the factory, with the known facts, we can speculate on a interesting scenario." Then at the end of the scenario I immediately closed with; "How do you like that one guys? How would you further adapt this to fit to a logical/plausable reality? Dan-San...remember this is a scenario, not what happened. I've blended facts with fiction, or at best, plausible fiction. The timeline is plausible, the facts I've stated are known, it's a nice story." If I "tricked" anyone, I apologize, this was the farthest thing from my intention. Now, back to the thread. CWatson, Your question of the white rudder on the later photographed upside down "V" blemish aircraft is moot as it is undoubtedly the same aircraft at Lechelle and the "under gaurd" photos. A replaced rudder is the most logical answer as to why an all white rudder. I mentioned that Fred Murrin, who flies a Dr.I replica powered by a 110 Le Rhone said he could see where the rudder would need to be replaced if one flew a lot. Now addressing the 425/17 vs. 477/17 question, I believe it has been put forth there are no photographs (yet known) of 425/17 before the shots taken of its wreckage on April 22nd. Is that correct? Just talking out loud. I don't understand why MvR didn't fly 425/17 before 477/17. 425/17 was accepted on January 8th, and 477/17 was accepted sometime in February or March. As Dan-San pointed out, MvR flew 477/17 on March 20th so we surmise that it must have been accepted in early February. That's a month later than 425/17. So why did he get 425/17 a month later than 477/17? At this point in time, no one knows. I was chatting with Langdon and he asked if the photos taken of MvR in his big fur coat with LvR sitting on the tire of a Dr.I and beside this plane could possibly be 425/17. Can anyone shed some light on this idea? What do you think...more likely 152/17 with the blue undersides on the wings. The wheels are NOT painted red. Any guesses or timelines of LvR together with MvR after returning from his head injury and I'm guessing before LvR's crash. Best, Dave W. Last edited by Dave_Watts; 12 June 2006 at 10:31 PM.