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Old 13 June 2006, 10:25 PM   #76 (permalink)
CWatson
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Originally Posted by Taz
I just made a 2400 dpi scan (500MB) of a first copy print of photo #95 from Alex Imrie's Triplane book. The WN I read from the scan and using my thread counting loupe on the 4.5"x6.5" print is 2103, which equates to Dr.I 477/17, as Alex stated in his book. My print says the original is in Ed Ferko's UTD collection. It would be easy to misread the WN as 2112 without careful examination. The photo Dan-San references from Alex' German Fighter Units June 1917-1918 is also contained in two parts in Greg VanWyngarden's von Richthofen's Flying Circus photos 48 and 49. Photo #95 in Triplanes shows a line-up of Jasta 11 Dr.Is in the background (Steinhauser's Dr.I is easlily identifiable on the left) with no aircraft except 477/17 having had their fuselage or rudder crosses converted to Balkenkreuz standard. The photo Dan-San refers to was obviously taken at a different time and from a different camera location. It shows a line-up of Jasta 6 Dr.Is on the right and a more random placement of Dr.Is, some from Jasta 11, on the left. All the Dr.Is in this photo have had their fuselage and rudder crosses converted to Balkenkreuz standard. This conversion takes time. In the background of the aircraft on the left (photo #49 in Greg's book) a Triplane top wing only is visible which has been overpainted (red presumably) and could be 477/17, 425/17, 127/17 or 152/17. Nothing conclusive can be determined from that photo, which I have in two parts also, but have not yet scanned.

Taz
Terry Phillips
Well Taz if you can make out the werke number that ends the big debate, and if you have the two part photo and plan on scanning it I would like to see it. I thought I had "Von Richthofen's Flying Circus" , I have "Richthofen's Circus" by Greg VanWyngarden and it does not appear to have the photo mention by you and Dan in it. It does however contain the picture you confirmed to show 477/17 but it appears to have a swastika marked plane on the left side of the picture, not Steinhauser's.


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