Right on Rob! The only part I have to dissagree with in this thread so far is time. The one thing I seem to have little of anymore. No matter how much "I" plan, something always comes up. I work 2nd shift, and when I get in, everyone else is asleep. Can't model then, or I'll wake them. After I get up, I have to do the daily running, plus my (hopefully) 1 hour nap, before I get to start over. With any luck I can squeeze in 90 minutes a day. But you are dead on about patience. I have a friend that models also (Navy blowtorches), and recently I was redoing a seat for the HC Nieu. 17, for about the 5th time. He happened to be over and was talking to me as I built. I over sanded one side, and to me it looked lopsided; he asked why I threw it away, it looked fine to him. That might be so, but it looked lopsided to me. And it was one of the few days I actually had nothing to do all day. John