dear Fokker J THANKS aaaaLOT i need that!!! i hoped i was heading in the right direction all who posted helped and i mean ALL!!! THANKS MERLIN V SCMc DAN ABBOT...what is new on test 3 is ,they are all broke out or separated as a color group then put on a transparent back ground then textured with one hight light and one dark{ you know like how a figure modeler paints base color then a lighter color of the base and a darker color of the base color ..}then a happy goof up the pattern had gaps in it all a round the edges i was going to fix that, but the lozenge camo dyes mixes at all edges to make a border so i made a backgrounds of grays to see witch one i liked the best. scale!!GIPSYMOTH236Ks photo of the tape 47"or 48" then i scaled the too that width and the length fallowed but i didnt print a test page so i would bet the scale is off... i know it needs some twinking!!i am glad you liked it i have one option left make a full scale pattern and texture that then scale it down