[StephenLawson]

Originally Posted by rammjaeger

Dear Mr Lawson,

it is not my discussion or favorite subject and I did not read the whole thread but I think I should point out some facts to avoid misunderstandings (also of other readers):

1) Josef Jacobs did not spent the whole of WWII in Norway.
He was not removed as director of "Reparaturwerke Erfurt GmbH" before October 1940. As well he was not removed because of political trouble.
He had caused financial problems and local Thuringian researchers do not see him innocent in this matter or as victim of the NS-Regime. Also in his case his individual perception or description of history has to go through a cross-check with available documents of this time. Only after this work one can know the real JJ and if his version of history is 100 % trustworthy.

Just a check here. I never said for the "whole of WWII" I simply said "WWII" The president of the Orden Pour le Merite brotherhood was warned by Göring that he was sending out the order to arrest Jacobs. He was told to get Jacobs out of the way. Now who was the over all commander in Norway? anyone? Who was the president of the orden Pour le Merite brotherhood? My references show the "official reason" Jacobs was to be arrested was his refusal to nazify. Udet was not Göring's first scapegoat. I find you disparaging comments on Jacobs character less than honourable.

Originally Posted by rammjaeger

2) So-called KTB are often not real "diaries" because entries were often made with a long delay (and sometimes even after the war) and it was also not uncommon that aviators did re-write their diaries or recollections (because of different motives). I am also possessing the text of another holder of the Pour le Mérite who did write 3 versions of his war diary: an original version, a "censored" and more anonymous second version and an improved final (?) version. Therefore one should not outrule the potential existance of different versions of one source too early. Not every difference is the result of fakes. .

So your saying the family would sell a fake? The same diary that Jacobs used for reference even in the book under discussion. Thats right you haven't read the whole thread. The consecutive daily entries of 365 pages are bogus in your opinion? Whoever the fellow you mention is not the concern here. Or rather not gremain to the subject. His reasons were not Jacobs'. Unless you have something to contribute directly to personal knowledge of the Jacobs diary, woulda, coulda, shoulda has no value.

Originally Posted by rammjaeger

Best regards
Hannes

By the way: Hal Oele and MT are two different persons.

A prankster is a prankster, birds of a feather flock together. . .have it as you will. Need I remind you -they, he, them misquoted the article to dicredit the diary. A falsehood is a falsehood. Thats right you haven't read the whole thread. I forgot.