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Old 23 June 2009, 11:14 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Your questions RAGIII

Hi RAGIII:
When I began to respond the this thread, I went back a reread FOKKER TRIPLANE by Alex Imrie. The reason I have done this, almost all of us, including me, have relied on what Alex Imrie has written in "FOKKER TRIPLANE." What I have read are assumptions. He was not stating this happened or that happened, he was careful in what he wrote. Some of the readers have taken what he said as a fact I am going to answer your question in regard to what Mr.Imrie said about Dr.I 152/17. page 109, second paragraph quote:
"It is not known when this aircraft, apparently 152/17 and completely over-painted red, was given to the museum by Kogenluft, the machine's national insignia display and manner of painting indicate that they were contemporary and not applied retrorespectively. Therefore, sometime after Richthofen's last victory on this machine on 18 March 1918, it was painted red and doubtless intended for further use in its all red scheme as Richthofen's regular aircraft."
Mr. Imrie has not state one fact, the statement is vague and is assumptive.
1. He said he does not know when it was painted all red.
2. He does not know it when DR.I 152/17, was given to the museum.
3. He has assumed it was painted all red for further use by MvR, he does not say it was ever used again by anyone.
Mr. Imrie is not wrong, he has said nothing that implied anything that could be constued as wrong. All he has said at some point in time Fok.DR.I 152/17 was painted all red, and that is a fact. He does not say it was used again, he has assumed it was painted all red for MvR's use. That is a fact.
What has happened it was, DR.I 152/17 painted all red, therefore it was the machine at LeChelle and that is not a fact. If what Mr. Nowarra has said is true, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it never got to LeChelle, It never made the move to Awoingt Airfield, It was removed from service at Avenes-le Sec Airfield.
Now we know for a fact that the all red triplane was not DR.I 425/17 because the lower wing crosses were completely finished whereas the lower cross on one of the lower wings was not completed.
Also we know for a fact the all red Triplane at leChelle, had completed fuselage crosses, because the fuselage cross on the right side of 152/17 were also not completed it was displayed at the Zeughaus Museum in Berlin, with incomplete cross of the right side, while the fuselage crosses were on the V blemish DR.I were completed.
I believe I have answered you questions RAGIII.
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Dan-San

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