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Old 30 September 2009, 09:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
R Gannon
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Well great minds must think alike, because I also made the Hazell v Udet connection long ago and indeed passed it around behind the scenes to several luminaries. SK Taylor was so impressed that he kindly provided me with 24 Sqn SRB for that fight. I think off the cuff Udet referred to Crossen & co as three proven flyers - as indeed they were.

"Mac's SE looses hieght and has to run" - well of course he would, as like all RFC / RAF fighter pilots he fought his air war over the German side. Sooner or later one had to retire back across lines. The fun thing is to wonder how Udet would have gone if he was caught by Mac over the British side. Maybe Udet would have meekly put his plane down and surrendered like Noth & Clausnitzer.

However on the point of aces fighting aces. Here is another interesting one. On 14 Oct 17 six of B&C Flights 56 Sqn had an escort job for some 27 Sqn Martinsydes which saw them first have an indecisive scrap with 6 EA scouts. I will now quote JTB's CR as to what happened next:

'...At 11.10 was attacked from above by 2 V Strutters over Zonnebeke. One EA broke off engagement but the other fought Lt Gilbert and I for 5 minutes. EA manouvred very well but after diving on Lt Gilbert, got below me and then I sat on his tail and drove EA down to 7,000 feet over Passchendaele, when EA went into a big cloud apparently OK. No more petrol so returned.'

JTB was flying B4863.

Now the Js 27 KTB as reproduced in OTF Vol 10 informs us that Bruno Loerzer (SF Js 26) and Herman Goering (SF Js 27) flew a mission together that same time frame and area which resulted in an indecisive fight with 2 'SPAD's' (sic) & 8 Martinsydes!!!!!

I like to think it was Herman who bugged out first and that Bruno was the one who fought it out for 5 minutes. But of course if this had occurred over the British side, Bruno may well have been invited to 56 Sqn mess that night for drinks. No doubt would tell Maxwell that Jeffs was ok. But might have passed more serious news of Sloley.

Cheers Russ
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