[Gregvan]

Hello Hal,

Thanks so much for that additional photo. As you say, Frankl's victory probably was confirmed in 1916. I know Jeffery Sands, and I know he is a diligent researcher.

However, I don't know what happened to the record of this "7th victory" at Lihons from 1978 to today.

I also don't know how it could have been recorded as a "Farman", since they obviously had the wreckage of a Nieuport right there in front of them.

Curiously. on 1 July 1916, Frankl had forced down BE2c No. 4146 of No. 12 Sqdn, thus capturing 2/Lt. Laurence Arthur Wingfield (also near Lihons?). The Sands listing says that Wingfield was killed, but he was actually captured very much alive. There are photos of Wingfield posing with Frankl, and of Frankl seated on the wheel of Wingfield's BE2c. However, Frankl was not credited with a victory on that day, though he claimed the BE. Frankl wrote a detailed description of that incident which appeared in Flugsport; in it he described how his gun jammed and he was able to force Wingfield down without firing a shot. Thus, Lance B has tentatively concluded (and I agree) that since Frankl did not actually shoot at Wingfield, he was not credited with a full Luftsieg? Just another curious incident.

Thanks again,

Greg