[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by Laserlloyd

Hi Kees,

Thanks for the information.

Do you have the name of this book? So who used these guidelines? Is there any connection to this to the BLV guidelines? It sounds like the ZAK also had their own inspectors so now there are two inspection departments at the Fokker Flugzeugwerke at the same time so who did what?


I was made a where of a three volume set of books that contained over 1200 pages and 790+plates called "Flugzeugmeisterei der Inspektion der Fliegertruppen" Might this be what your talking about?

So now what is the difference between the "Flugzeugmeisterei der Inspektion der Fliegertruppen" and the "Bau-und Lieferungsvorschriften für Militärflugzeug"?

Lloyd...

A lot of questions, but let's try

• Richtlinien

The description of the Richtlinien (=Guidelines) was as given

Richtlinien für die Tätigkeit der Zentral-Abnahme-Kommission <Z.A.K.> der Flugzeugmeisterei d. Kgl. Preuss. Inspektion d. Fliegertruppen. 1918. 83 pages

A copy of this 83 pages (!) Richtlinien / Guidelines is in the Library of the Technisches Museum Berlin



Note that this copy is from the Peter M. Grosz estate (marking PMG).

It would surely be interesting to see the first page (title page) as the description differ somewhat

• Use of the Richtlinien für die Tätigkeit der Z-A-K etc.

These are guidelines for the control procedures that the Z-A-K must perform when accepting aircraft. Surely these procedures are also given to aircraft producers, so they know what to expect. Adjacent to these procedures will be standardized control lists, which had to be filled in following the given procedures. With these two things (standardized control lists and procedures) the Z-A-K could rationalize their acceptance procedures.

Of course it will we quite clear when looking through the book(let) - 83 pages of them.

Things have not changed very much. Acceptance now is the same working procedure.

• Bau- und Liefervorschriften

Bau[vorschriften]- und Liefervorschriften für Heeresflugzeuge (B.L.V.)
Titelzusatz: Ausg. 1918 (Frühere Bestimmgn werden durch diese Ausg. ungültig)
Impressum: [s.l.] : [o. Verl.], 1918
Umfang: 79 S.

These guidelines were aimed at all of the aircraft builders for the Army (Heer). It contained guidelines how to build and guidelines how to deliver the machines.

This title is again from the Peter M. Grosz collection now in the Library of the Technisches Museum Berlin.

Beware that these B.L.V. (abbreviation) were updated, so there is also a 1917 edition, which was updated by this 1918 edition.

• Organisation

There are the following participants -

- aircraft manufacturer (Albatros, Fokker etc.)
responsible for building and delivering according to the BLV

- Bauaufsicht
responsible for control on the manufacturer, is the BLV followed to the letter

- Zentral Abnahme Kommission (Z-A-K)
responsable for the acceptance of delivered aeroplanes (Heeres Flugzeuge). They follow the Richtlinien für die Tätigkeit der Z-A-K [Guidelines for the work done by the Z-A-K]. These guidelines were set on paper by the Flugmeisterei of Idflieg.

Describing this procedures I think the German army has organized the whole from design, building and acceptance very rigorously, so they control the quality of the delivered machines.

Any more guidelines ?

Yes, as delivery of all sort of was decentralized, there were all sorts of Norm Blätter for constructors of these pieces, like nuts, bolts, wood, p material ropellers and (recently on the Forum) wheels of landing gear, especially the spokes.

This maybe your 3-volume 1200 page book. It is an amazing detail. Not specifically for Germany as other nations had doubtless the same documentation, otherwise no manufacturer could do things right. Again, not very different from subcontractor work now.

I hope I have answered your questions a little bit, but it would be nice to have a look at the different books which were presented here.

Have a fine day

Kees