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Old 17 April 2010, 01:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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According to this snippet in Aeronautics 1909
New Bates Flyer. Carl Bates, of Chicago, whose first aeroplane has already been illustrated in these columns, has started work on a new machine intended to be an improvement upon the former. It will be a bi-surface machine, of course,......
the contemporary name in 1909 is Bates Flyer.

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