[Shooter]

Richard:

Not to stir up this pot with a big stick, but (and you can check with Barrett about this, since IIRC I heard it from him), there was a certain level of over-claiming in Korea also. As for the propaganda coming from north of the Yalu, yeah the People's Liberation Air Force was fond of claiming every fallen pigeon feather as a downed UN a/c but we as a group usually get wrapped around the axle about F-86 vs. MiG-15 losses. What must be remembered is that UN air-to-air losses came in all flavors, with multi-engined bombers being high on the Communist priority chart, while the vast majority of Communist a/c losses were MiG's. When one factors in all types of UN a/c losses, the Communist victory claim numbers become a bit more reasonable, with an overclaim factor of only two or three hundred percent.

I find it sad that some in the Great White North seem to delight in taking pot shots at BB (and now it seems Barker?). While Bishop was a man reputed to be capable of tall tales, in some respects, I would not myself ever call him a liar or suggest that he would submit a falsified combat report. While combat vets are not always the most admirable of men, to suggest that they are pure frauds is simply not acceptable to me. I usually stay out of the Bishop arguments, since Al hardly requires my assistance most of the time, but he seems to be temporarily assigned elsewhere.


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