[PeterL]

Vin, since returning to the Forum I have tried to keep my distance from the argumentative kind of thread, but as these are unusual circumstances perhaps I could just contribute a few words.

First I have to say that in many ways I agree with many of your submissions, where I have a problem is with the strident tone. It is quite acceptable, and productive, to say "I disagree, and this is why" but quite another to come out looking for a scrap.

I realize that to some extent you can claim only to be giving as good as you get, but this thread is deliberatly couched in provocative language. Please do not immagine that I am accusing you of being the sole offender, if we are going to put a stop to all this unpleasentness then we all have to moderate our tone. How about making a start right here?