Fokker E.V - D.VIII wing camouflage

[Langdon]

Hi Achim,

Nice to see you here. VonHelton, Fokker could have used the same paint on the underside of the E.V - D.VIII as he did on the Dr.I and other aircraft but there are two very good reasons to believe he didn't, one is the photo I published at the beginning of this thread and the other is the title block of the original wing drawing that lists all of the materials (and I mean all), and the amounts, that are required for the wing, this clearly states the stains required for the camouflage as well as the black and white paint for the German markings and varnish for the finish coat. A similar drawing exists for the early production Dr.I wings and it mentions enamel paint not wood stain.

If my theory concerning the factory photo is correct then early D.VIII wings were painted this way as well; the difference between an early D.VIII wing and a late one is a couple of months so there is very little reason to suspect a substantial change in the camouflage methods employed on this aircraft.


Langdon

[VonHelton]

Originally posted by AchimEngels@Dec 21 2003, 08:05 AM
[b] Von Helton,

Here again comes the myth of the torquise, I see. I don´t agree.

In case you´re interested in my opinion please go here

Fokker Streaky Camouflage Fabric - Duration Test

to recheck this opinion.

Enjoy!

Achim

Good to know this, Herr Engels, since I've long had my doubts concerning "blue belly" Dr1's.........

[Langdon]

Dr.I's certainly had "blue bellies" they just weren't torquoise is what I think Achim is saying. Recently I inspected one of the under-wing crosses from MvR's 425/17 held by the Australian War Memorial, under the red paint you can still see the blue underside colour. With time it has turned into a dull blue grey.

Langdon

[VonHelton]

Originally posted by Langdon@Dec 22 2003, 06:55 AM
[b] Dr.I's certainly had "blue bellies" they just weren't torquoise is what I think Achim is saying. Recently I inspected one of the under-wing crosses from MvR's 425/17 held by the Australian War Memorial, under the red paint you can still see the blue underside colour. With time it has turned into a dull blue grey.

Langdon

"Blue Belly Syndrome" is a product of WW2, not WW1.

Yes, some units chose to have light blue on the underside of the wings, but blue bellies was a rarity.

[RoyH]

Regarding a light blue underside for the subwing; if it existed, we should be able to see a demarkation line across its leading edge, similar to what what has been found in Dr.I photographs...Shouldn't we?

Cheers,
Doc

[Langdon]

RoyH,

I have not noticed this on any E.V or D.VIII aircraft but at least some Dr.I's had blue underneath the undercarriage wing. Possibly Dan-San has something to add on this?

Langdon

[FlyingRazor]

Hi Dan,

Sorry for the delay. You requested to see a photo of a D8 tail that has horizontal black stripes. Well, here ya go...

Happy New Year,

Glenn

D8- horiz-tail

[FlyingRazor]

Let me try that again....

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Flying razor:
Thank you, I was looking something else, and I found it. This is a Fok.E.V, it is not the Fok.D.VIII.
blue skies,
Dan-San

[VonHelton]

Originally posted by FlyingRazor@Jan 3 2004, 12:16 AM
[b] Let me try that again....

Ok,

Horizontal stripes on the elevator is:

Jasta 29

-or-

Jasta 8

This is a big help!

........And just in time, too!



Danke, Razor!