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9 January 2004, 10:02 AM
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Gentlemen,
Does anyone know if ANY the SS DIII (particularly the first few) were possibly delivered with the OLD style markings rather than the straight crosses? And to confirm, the fuselage on most was natural (but dark, not light like the Albatros) wood, 5-color lozenge on the wings and elevator, correct? Brad
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9 January 2004, 12:12 PM
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Brad,
The SSW D.III of  Hans Weiss Jasta 19 was covered with four color fabric if I remember correctly.Tim |
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9 January 2004, 12:48 PM
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There's a Bob Pearson profile here which appears to show an early aircraft with overpainted eisernskreuz. I can't find any right now (every thing still in boxes) but I know there are photos of SSW DIII with the earlier markings. I'm not sure if they are pre-production machines. Possibly that doesn't matter as even some of these found their way to the front.
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9 January 2004, 03:06 PM
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Very nice Gents... Thanks!
Brad
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9 January 2004, 05:18 PM
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Greetings all: Ltn.d.R. Walter Göttsch was the commander of Jasta 19 14Feb18 to 10Apr18 (KIA.) His assigned SSW D.III had the crosses altered and the fuselage and empanage (tail unit) painted white. The lozenge type on this machine (8346/17) and the other assigned to J.19 were 5 color. I don't see anyone named Weiss on the Jasta 19 roster by R. Duiven. The cowling was a full round type. Evidently he didn't get to fly it much before he died. The D.II types all had the early crosses but were experimental with plain fabric covered wings.
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9 January 2004, 05:36 PM
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The four colour lozenge was a Fokker factory exclusively produced pattern. Though he sold this to some other factories (he was after all a business man looking to make a buck(mark) now and then, I don't know of any SSW D.III that came from their factory in 4 colour. Just my opinion. Can anyone point out a photo for me?
Here are some of the past topics at the Aerodrome on the SSW D.III |
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11 January 2004, 04:19 PM
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Gents,
The first DII pic posted, with the CDL wings, appears to have a bit more wingspan. Does anyone have span and chord info on the wings, or a 3-view of that aircraft, or know where to get one for a reasonable cost? These "flying beer barrels" intrigue me.  Brad
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11 January 2004, 08:03 PM
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Brad,
Probably the best source for info on the early SSW D.III fighters (outside of the Datafile) is WWI Aero Issue No. 123, February 1989...Dick Bennett covers it pretty well here and also has drawings included as well as some color schemes (black and white, of course). Essential! Best, Lyle
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11 January 2004, 08:30 PM
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Brad:
From photos I have studied show the early SSW D.III machines were covered with the 5 color light (lower) pattern on the tops of the wings,elevator, rudder and wheel covers. The under surfaces were covered plain unprinted linen fabric. The fuselage, fin and stabilizer were stained a reddish brown. Blue skies, Dan-San |
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