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16 March 2004, 05:41 PM
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Years ago I had a picture of a Fokker D-7 with no lower wing. The caption stated that , when Fokker and Platz were thinking of building the E-V, they did a feasibility test with this craft, and it flew surprisingly well. Has anyone got a copy of this pic?
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16 March 2004, 06:25 PM
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Yes. and try...Rosebud?
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16 March 2004, 06:33 PM
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R Pope:
I don't think I have ever seen this photograph. without the lower wing, the CG would be too far forward and would have made the machine very tail heavy. Reinhold Platz was an expert welder, he did not have anything to do with the design of any Fokker aircraft. This is a phony story put out by A.R.Weyl who wanted to denigrate Anthony Fokker, Weyl had an intense dislike of Fokker. Platz was not a engineer, he was an expert welder. At some point Fokker put Platz in the experimental testing department. Platz had nothing to do with any aircraft design.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
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16 March 2004, 06:40 PM
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Hi Dan-San,
Could he be thinking of the Fokker V29? Looks like a D.VII with a E.V -D.VIII wing. Pix on page 361 of the old Gray and Thetford "German Aircraft of the First World War"
Salute,
Steve
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16 March 2004, 06:46 PM
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Hello
This is as close as I can get
caption says:
Third of the Fokker parasol monoplanes that participated in the first German fighter trials, the V-27 had a 195hp Benz bz.IIIb engine.
photo R. Ward
from Profile publications 'The Fokker D.VII' J.M.Bruce
Be well
chip55
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16 March 2004, 07:26 PM
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Hi Chip,
I have that photo listed as the V27. here is the V29.
Salute,
Steve
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17 March 2004, 12:36 AM
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It waas not the V29. in the caption it was pointed out that the bottom wing mounts were visible, and under the top wing you could see the interplane strut mounts . Also the wing was obviously a fabric-covered D7 piece. It would have been an easy matter to modify the cabane to shift the center of lift rearward. That'd be "excellent welder" Platz's job.
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17 March 2004, 06:30 AM
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Why a high winged monoplane ? Wouldn't the aircraft's wingfs be stronger if mounted low and direct to the fuselage rather than above the fuselage ?
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17 March 2004, 06:46 AM
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Two things occur:
-Pilot visibility
-different aerobatic characteristics, given same or similar proportions.
(probably wrong on the second one)
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"A King may move a man, a father may claim a son,
but remember that even when those who move you be Kings,
or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone.
When you stand before God, you cannot say,
"But I was told by others to do thus."
Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
This will not suffice.."
-Baldwin Four of The Baldwin Piano Company
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17 March 2004, 08:01 PM
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Parasol monoplanes, in the WW1 time frame with the smaller, lighter construction than in WWII, would not "float" on landing like a low wing, and the small amount of wing center section that would be blanked by the fuselage in a low wing allowed a significant increase in wing area for the span. This would give an increased rate of climb and ceiling, which was deemed more important than all-out speed.The pendulum effect of the high wing made for lateral stability without dihedral, making a one-piece wing spar easier to build. Remember, the preferred tactic was to dive on an enemy, so downward visibility was paramount.
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