Photo's unknown planes or units

Regulus · 16 November 2004, 02:07 PM

Hi,

I have a number of photo's in my collection which I can not ID. Can anyone help me on the matter ?

They can be found over here :

http://skynetphotoservice.wistiti.be...473751:Regulus

Check Album 6 - Unknown

Thanks for your help and best from Johan

Colin A Owers · 16 November 2004, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the wonderful photos.

Working L to R and down:

Photo 1 looks like a Hansa-Brandenburg FB.

Photo 2. LVG C.V

Photo 6 is a DFW C.V not a Rumpler.

Photo 8 Looks like Mai's D.VII.

Photo 10 LVG C.V

MikeW · 16 November 2004, 02:36 PM

Johan,

what's that with the checker board pattern behind and left of the Fokker Triplane? By the way I love the Fokker's 1 horse power engine!

Mike

Regulus · 16 November 2004, 03:05 PM

Mike,

It seems to be a Jasta 12 photo, but that's all I know about it

Colin,

So right ! Is indeed a DFW instead of a Rumpler? My mistake !
Thanks for the info, have nothing from info at all on the FB from HB, could be that this photo is taken at Ostend or Zeebrugge, not clear yet.

Are you certain on the Mai DVII ? Never saw it in this scheme, but don't know a lot on his unit to be honest...

2, 6 and 10 were in a series accompanied of a photo of Vizefeldwebel Ehmann, the 13 victory ace in his Halberstad CL II, maybe they have someting in common ?

Thanks and best from Johan

Rick · 16 November 2004, 03:06 PM

The one horse power Dr.I is a Jasta 12 machine. The Fokker D.VII, with the checkerboard tail plane, is probably a MFJ aircraft, but I do not know which one. R.

Regulus · 16 November 2004, 03:17 PM

Thanks Rick !

Here's the confirmation on the Jasta 12 plane ! Any idea who's plane is in the background as Mike mentioned ?

About the DVII : Have seen the same kind of chequered tail with the Jasta's 10, 60 and 74. There's also no marine personnel on the photo, and I think a Daimler Marienfelde in the background. Of course it could be a MFJ plane on an Army airfield, not that unusual...

Thanks and best from Johan

Intrepid · 16 November 2004, 03:22 PM

The Fokker D.VII is

Alois Heldmann's 244/18

Regulus · 16 November 2004, 03:37 PM

Hi Intrepid !

It looks indeed a lot like the plane with or the A and H letters on the top wing or in another version, with which one I agree, with patches that resemble a bit on letters. Thanks !

Best from Johan

Cigogne · 16 November 2004, 05:29 PM

The D.VII photo is Heldmann's plane, but is part of a series of photos taken with

Lothar von Richthofen in the cockpit, including this photo. He is known to have borrowed the aircraft. Other photos from the series show him in the cockpit, and him with his father, Albrecht Frhr. von Richthofen.

The crashed machine w/ the Eisernekreuz marking on the wheel is an Aviatik C.I. The other machine labelled as a Rumpler is in fact a DFW C.V that was downed at, I believe, Istrana December 26, 1917 during the "Boxing Day Raid" on either the No. 28 Squadron's (or No. 66?) RAF Aerodrome. Have to go look for certain, but the photo is the same shown in various publications.

The frontal view of the twin-engined floatplane w/ one engine removed is either a Hansa-Brandenburg or Friedrichshafen, but I don't recognize which type. It is different than the HBs Torpedo aircraft that flew at Angernsee... the radiators and engine installations differs as do the angle of the wing struts.

Regulus · 18 November 2004, 10:30 AM

Thanks Cigogne !

Could you check the DFW photograph ? In the Brussels archives it is said to be a crash in Flanders, and would like to be certain on this matter, so that I can pass the message to them also.

Thanks and best from Johan