Siemens Schuckert Factory Photo

fltmech · 8 February 2005, 07:47 PM

Dan San,
I sent you an e-mail via the forum, will be glad to send you the info.

It is interesting that the rig diagram shows the D1a. The stress analysis is dated
Berlin February 1917.

fltmech · 8 February 2005, 08:15 PM

JR.R,
I am sure you will find many interesting things at the archives, prior to getting in to aviation, Siemens where involved in the building of dynamos,and other electrical equipment. And I believe later where constructing railway equipment, locomotives. Siemens is on of the largest electronic companies
You may thank Ms. Kinter for me, and other forumites, from the info given me, I have done my best to share it with others interested in the SSW D1.

JohnFitz · 9 February 2005, 07:57 AM

Hi guys, glad to see so much interest in the SSW D1. I have for some time been collecting and have most of the info. that all of you have so genorously supplied. The D1 a/b had twin guns so I'm guessing the wing dimensions and rigging difference might have had something to do with the extra weight of the gun and ammo.? JR.R, I know that Dan-San will probably disagree but considering the date that the D1b was built, I still wonder if it could have been painted in mauve and dk. green? According to DS (forum thread 5/16/01), Idflieg issued the telegram that ordered the use of mauve on or about 4/12/1917. Since the order to cancell production of the D1 was in July of 1917 it seems there is a slim chance that mauve and green could have been used on the D1 B of which there were two built, 1230/17 and 1231/17 ( Cross & Cockade 1961). Anyway, Perhaps your trip to Siemens might shed a new light on this as well? Hope you have a great trip!

JohnFitz

JohnFitz · 9 February 2005, 08:04 AM

Oops, Forgot to ask. Fltmech, Do you have anything on the cockpit/ instrument panel? I haven't seen anything anywhere. JR.R, I would much appreciate anything you could dig up on this. Not trying to create work for you but hate to miss an opportunity like this to fill in some gaps. Cheers!

fltmech · 9 February 2005, 08:41 AM

JohnFitz,
No, nothing on the instrument panel. That is one area that is lacking, I originally started research on the D1 to build a Graham Lee replica. Unfortunately it was lost during the last hurricane season. I know the Nieuport 11 didn't have much in the way of an instrument panel, the D1 is probably the same.

JohnFitz · 9 February 2005, 08:53 AM

Thanks fltmech, Then JR.R will not be wasting his time if he remembers my request. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Cheers!

Regulus · 9 February 2005, 10:36 AM

Hi,

No problem JohnFitz, will make a print of this thread as soon as the discussion here slows down and take it with me to Munich.

Best from Johan

JohnFitz · 9 February 2005, 03:33 PM

That's great news Johan! Thanks so much.

Dan_San_Abbott · 9 February 2005, 06:42 PM

John Fitz:
I have studied almost all of the German camouflage scheme and to my knowledge none used lilac, mauve or violet until the directive from Idflieg on 12 April 1917. The Albatros Werke did not initially use lilac, mauve until the production of the Alb.D.V. Some of the manufacturers, Albatros, DFW, LVG and others, discontinued the use of rust, red brown and and used two shades of green, olive, whatever. what they did was use what they had in stock and then adopted lilac, mauve or some shade of violet.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

JohnFitz · 9 February 2005, 07:42 PM

Hi Dan-San, Good to hear from you. Your efforts and accomplishments in the study of WW1 aircraft is unquestionable. I am mearly using data provided by yourself and C&C. I guess I should be asking this question; Since the D1 b's were built after 4/12/1917 (when Idflieg issued the telegram) would they not have been painted to comply with Idflieg's instructions? Perhaps other D1's were painted this way also since production was not stopped until July, two months after Idflieg's telegram. Again, please don't think I am second guessing you. I am only making a reasonable deduction based on the dates provided. This is just something that has been bugging me and maybe Johan will unearth something to prove or completely disprove my thinking. Cheers!