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15 February 2005, 11:56 AM
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Eastern front planes and crashes
Hi,
These are links to pics of the Hungarian Szeged library. Anyone care to comment on these pictures, planes, when, who ? They are all taken on the Eastern Front. http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/13/image61.htm Plane hangar - photographed second half 1915 http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/13/image75.htm Russian plane I think it translates as an emergency landing - second half 1915 http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/13/image76.htm The same plane again http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/14/image39.htm http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/14/image74.htm http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/14/image106.htm Again it says plane hangar - taken August-September 1916 - Idrija region http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/14/image202.htm I only understand German plane near Jarestea - 1st half of 1917 http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image9.htm Taken in Rumania summer 1917 at Novi Sad (Ujvidek), photo number 8 are the aerodrome hangars http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image96.htm Crash Italian plane in Tirol - August 1918 or later http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image100.htm Crashed plane in Tirol - August 1918 or later - Identified by Rod further on http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image101.htm Same plane http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image108.htm Crashed plane - no mentioning of nationality http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image109.htm Same crashed plane Best from Johan 
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16 February 2005, 01:46 PM
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For those of you interested, Rod Filian already identified one of the planes and I translated as good as (im)possible some parts of the Hungarian comments on the photo's. I also was able to place an approx. date on them.
Now we'll see where the experts are !  See : http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?p=196417#post196417 Best from Johan  
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16 February 2005, 02:30 PM
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Johan,
This isn't my identification per sec. The image was one of a few sent to me as hi-res scans by Jan Zahalka in the Czech Republic. The identification was his. The Aviatik D.I photo is credited "From the estate of Mr. Shvoy Kalman courtesy Mr. Zahalka". I assumed this Kalman photo was owned by Mr. Zahalka as he was quite resolute in ensuring I indicated copyright to him. I'll try to contact Jan Zahalka to see if he can shed further light on this collection. VBR Rod
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16 February 2005, 02:32 PM
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I'll take a stab at 3 of them (5 pictures, 3 aircraft)
1 & 6 are a Loehner flying boat 2 & 3 Nieuport monoplane I THINK 12 looks like it MIGHT be a Sikorsky S16. Not much to go by- it's pretty much destroyed. I'm guessing based on the dual wheels on each gear leg.
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17 February 2005, 06:11 AM
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17 February 2005, 06:39 AM
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Great photos, Johan!
#75 and #76 are a Nieuport IV. #9 looks like Lohner B-types, judging from the shape of the fin/rudder and severe sweep of the wing. #96, #100 and #101 seem to all be pictures of the same crash site, the Aviatik D.I previously identified. I agree with SL DIII about #108 and #109. Based on the pairs of wheels, scalloped trailing edge and center-section cutout of the wing, I say Caudron G.III or G.IV - hard to be sure since I don't see any nacelle parts, cowls or engines. |
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18 February 2005, 12:33 PM
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If you want to look at ALL of the photos, replace the 61 with 60, then 59 then 58 etc.
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/13/image61.htm Paul
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18 February 2005, 04:42 PM
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Hi,
This really starts to look good ! We start to identify the planes, and one has already been identified by Rod Filan : the photo http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/shvoy/15/image101.htm is Aviatik D.I (Lo) 115.23 (Flik 60J) w/ Austro-Daimler 200hp flown by Ltn.d.Res. Alois Rodlauer, 27 Mar 1918. I also placed some comments with the links above, and the comment on photo's 100 and 101 proof that the period in which the photo's are supposed to be made are not always exact. As the text is in Hungarian, and my knowledge of this language is rather limited to some notes, I could only translate bits and parts of it. I really hope we will be able to identify all of them ! Or at least the unit they served in ! Best from a happy Johan 
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18 February 2005, 05:53 PM
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Greetings to all,
If you are interested by the pictures provided by Johan, here is the link to the index page. Click on Album 13, 14 or 15 to see the whole pictures. Many of them are very interesting, even if they show not aircraft. They cover mainly operations on Galicia, Bukovina, Isonzo front and Tyrol. An other interesting album, for those interested by the period just after the WWI, must be Album 5. Best regards from Belgium Philippe |
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