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6 August 2002, 07:13 AM
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Forum Ace
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Location: Warsaw
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I'm looking for colour scheme for the AH Albatros J.I 09.03, looks very light, and probably not in natural wood colour on the photo in the FMP AH book.
TIA!
G.
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6 August 2002, 09:52 AM
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Rest in Peace
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GrzeM:
Alb.J.I 730/17 which was sent to ustria and renumbered 09.03 was finish as follows:
Plywood nose, rear fuselage and fins were shellacked and varnished, resulting in a straw yellow. armoured center fuselage light grey as well as all fittings, cowlings access doors, foot steps, all struts, radiator and plumbing and gun ring.
The upper surface of the wings, tailplane and rudder were light greyish green.
The upper wing tips were dark green to the fourth rib from the aileron at the leading edge and sloped inward to the trailing edge 1.5 ribs.
The lower wigs the inboard portion of the wing was painted dark green to third rib from the aileron, and sloped inwards to the trailing 1.5 ribs.
The elevator tips are painted dark green following the inboard angled balance to the trailing edge just inboard of the second rib from the tip.
The under surfaces of the wings, tailplane and the wheel covers were painted light blue.
The tires are pale grey.
Ihave this available in color for $10.00 plus $3.50 for postage and handling.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
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7 August 2002, 04:11 AM
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Scout Pilot
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Leesburg, VA
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Dan San, approximately how many color schemes do you have?
VBR,
John
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7 August 2002, 07:09 AM
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Forum Ace
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Thanks Dan-San!
This plane on the photo in the AH FMP book looks like with fuselage painted in very light colour, both metal and woden parts. Also fuselage cross is invisible (overpainted). This photo is from frontline service in Flik 69s, so it could be painted in the unit or in Flep like Austrians used to do.
Have you seen that photo? Maybe you have better quality print?
Do you have some info about it? Or maybe any other photo?
Cheers!
G.
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7 August 2002, 08:35 AM
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Rest in Peace
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droops:
* *John, about two years ago I completed my study of Albatros Werke camouflage and finishing schemes of all the aircraft they built and their subsidiaries and licensed builders between August 1914 to November 1918. *In addition Aviatik, DFW, Fokker, LFG, LVG, Pfalz, Rumpler and Siemens-Schuckert.
* My drawings illustrate the aircraft variants,i.e there are 28 varitions in the airframe of the DFW C.V and added to this are the variations in finish between DFW, Aviatik, BFW and LVG. I don't have generic drawings, one plane fits all variations. *The variations are often subtle, like louvers, doors, foot steps, propeller, engine, ..etc.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * Blue skies,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Dan-San
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7 August 2002, 08:41 AM
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Rest in Peace
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GrzeM:
My data illustrates Alb.J.I 730/17 as is was when accepted by the Army. It is possible they changed the colors in Austria, however, I doubt it, I think all they did was add the Austrian number 90.03 on the sides of the fuselage. The photo is taken in bright sunlight as evidenced by the dark shadows and the highly reflected light on the fuselage. Best I can do for you.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
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7 August 2002, 10:55 AM
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Forum Ace
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So where is the fuselage cross?
Austrians also re-engined this plane, with 50hp stronger Marta Benz, so re-painting was possible too. In my opinion lack of fuselage cross indicates re-painting.
BTW, on the photo of the 09.01 inspection panels on the front looks much darker than armoured cockpit sides. What were it's colours?
Cheers!
G.
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8 August 2002, 05:00 PM
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Rest in Peace
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GrzeM:
* With paint thinners, they removed the cross. In studying the photo in the Austrian book (FMP),
the camouflage is still on the lower wing as the it was originally. The access doors were light grey as were the cowlings and struts. Take a look at 90.01, thereis very little contrast between the plywood and the armored center fuselage.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * Blue skies,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan-San
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8 August 2002, 05:59 PM
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Forum Ace
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Finally thanks Dan-San!
But I'm still thinking - on the (good and clear) photo of the 09.01 plane the inspection panels (round ones on the engine cowling) look much darker than armour plates.
Cheers!
G.
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