Richthofen's Fokker D.VII

RED BARON RETURNS · 7 November 2005, 08:58 PM

Has Anyone Ever Seen A Picture Of

Lothar Von Richthofen D.VII Plane ? I Have Always Seen Planes Of Udet And Others But Never Lother's Plane.Another Note It Say's That

Manfred Von Richthofen Tested A D.VII Has Anyone Even Seen That Picture?
Later Days,
JEP
Red Baron

StephenLawson · 8 November 2005, 10:34 AM

RBR here are a couple of Datafiles from Albatros Pub. Ltd. They are great references. The search engine here may help too.

Richthofen by A E (ED) Ferko. This is a superb record of Germany's leading fighter pilot, which also includes detailed appendices and notes. There are 203 photos (many hitherto unpublished) that trace the Baron's WWI career. 84 pages offer a unique, fresh insight into Germany's Ace of Aces; also included are 4 colour pages with 15 colour profiles of the Baron's aeroplanes. £21.00

Von Richthofen's Flying Circus. Written by Greg VanWyngarden, this superb 68 page book provides extensive pictorial cover-age of Jagdgeschwader Nr.I's Jastas 4, 6, 10 and 11 - the famous flying circus! With 183 archive photos, 12 mono profiles and 10 colour pages packed full with over 47 exacting new colour profiles by Ray Rimell. £16.95

Fokker D.VII Anthology 1. 68 pages packed with reference, 5 pages of all new GAs, over 130 photos, 10 airframe sketches, cockpit sketches and drawings, 11 mono profiles, 21 all-new colour side profiles plus extra scrap views depict D.VIIs from 12 Jastas plus stencil, lozenge covering and cowl variation drawings! £17.50 There are a couple of typographical errors there.

Fokker D.VII Anthology 2. Contributions from leading experts with 68 pages including 25 new colour side profiles and 13 plan views showcasing D.VIIs of Jastas 24, 26, 27, 28W, 29, 30, 32b, 33, 34b, 35b, 36, 37, 40, 43, 45 and 46, plus 5 pages of 1:48/1:72 scale plans for the OAW-built D.VII version. Over 110 WWI and close-up photos, special features on OAW structure, 1918 capture report, D.VIIs in Hollywood, Jasta markings, cross styles, stencil data, colour notes, cowl variations, wing geometry and more! £18.50

Fokker D.VII Anthology 3. The third volume profiles Albatros-built D.VIIs with new 1:48/1:72 scale plans and many cowl, stencil, cross and markings' sketches. Plus eight pages of exciting new colour art profiling D.VIIs from Jastas 50,53,54,56,57, 58,59,60,63, 65,66,68,71,72,73,74,78b, MFJ I and MFJ II! Over 119 photos and 11 mono profiles! £20.00

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RED BARON RETURNS · 8 November 2005, 11:33 AM

Stephen,
Thanks For The Info That Wind-sock Site Is Pretty Cool Now I Must See What The Prices Are In American Dollars Not Pounds.
Later Days,
Jep
Red Baron

25 November 2005, 08:34 AM

On this Fokker fly

Lothar von Richthofen and

Alois Heldmann. (D244/18)

Dan_San_Abbott · 25 November 2005, 10:44 AM

PeterOz:
You are correct in your statement that it was flown by Ltn.Lothar Frhr.von Richthofen and Ltn.Aloys Heldmann. It is not clear why

LvR flew this machine, it is assigned to Jasta 10 and is the personal machine of Ltn.Heldmann. The back and white checkerborad on the tailplane was his personal marking. On the upper wing in board from the right side inboard from the cross are Ltn.Heldmann's stylized initials, AH in chrome yellow.
Ltn. Lothar Frhr.von Richthofen flew Fok.D.VII 230/18 for a period. He also flew a Fok.D.VII where the fuselage was red to the immediate rear of the cockpit and rest of the fuselage and empennage was yellow. The red nose was the Jasta 11 colors and the yellow was the colors of his Uhlan regiment. I don't know if this was D.244/18.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

FliegerJG1 · 25 November 2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_San_Abbott

The red nose was the Jasta 11 colors and the yellow was the colors of his Uhlan regiment. I don't know if this was D.244/18.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Lothar von Richthofen served with Dragoon Regiment (1st Schlesisches) No. 4 'von Bredow,' garrisoned in Lueben (today Lubin) near Liegnitz. His brother Manfred was with the Uhlans.

VBR..FliegerJG1

Dan_San_Abbott · 25 November 2005, 03:28 PM

FliegerJG1:
Thank you for the correction, I was too lazy to look it up.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

R Pope · 25 November 2005, 03:46 PM

I believe the "DVII" test flown by MvR was a prototype with a "V" designation, not a proper DVII. I don't recall the number. (like DSA,I'm too lazy to look it up.)

26 November 2005, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_San_Abbott

He also flew a Fok.D.VII where the fuselage was red to the immediate rear of the cockpit and rest of the fuselage and empennage was yellow.

Yes. I have some scans of this machine.

Lothar von Richthofen used this Fokker when Jasta's 11 base was in Puisieux aerodrome.

Dan_San_Abbott · 26 November 2005, 01:36 PM

PeterOz:
The configuration of the illustrated Fok.D.VII is incorrect, ltn. Lothar Frhr.von Richthofen could not have flown that machine with those nose panels. The first Fok.D.VII with that panels configuration was ordered in July 1918, 100 Fok.D.VII 5050 -5149/18. They would not have reached the front until late September or early October 1918. Ltn. Lothar Frhr.von Richthofen was wounded in action on 13 August 1918. He did not return to the front before the war ended.
Blue skies,
Dan-San