Little-known German planes. Help.

Oldman · 1 April 2006, 12:38 AM

Hello dear Dan San,
I am happy to receive from you such offer. I live in Minsk, Belarus (the former USSR) and at us such books never was on sale. For me it is the big problem. Planes VVV this my most favourite hobby during many years. Unfortunately, to find the necessary information it happens very uneasily, therefore I address for the help to colleagues in the Internet. I understand, that my requests for the help for you are sometimes simply naive (has taken the necessary book from a shelf and read), but at me such books are not present. And in immediate prospects will not be. It is a pity.
Write to me on Obukhovich@tut.by
Thanks,

Oldman,
Valery

Oldman · 1 April 2006, 12:48 AM

Hi all,
Having charged by energy after promising offer Dan San, and having thanked participants of discussion for the information, it is possible to continue a theme on Pfalz E.
At me a question: deformation wing instead of ailerons was used on all types Е?

Thanks,
Oldman

paule · 1 April 2006, 03:04 AM

not sure if this is the right pusher but at least an otto plane

Pat Daily · 1 April 2006, 09:34 AM

Paule

Thanks for posting the pics of the Otto pusher as made by Pfalz. I wonder if a 3 view of it exits--it would make an interesting flying rc model.

Pat

paule · 1 April 2006, 03:53 PM

I found the pictures on the site of a society which is rebuilding the aircraft factory Oberschleissheim in Bavaria. It is a part of the "Deutsches Museum" now.

They write they have lots of excellent pictures of the original Otto planes and some construction drawings.

They are currently building a replica of the Otto pusher.
Unfortunately there are only a few pictures on their homepage.
Url:
http://www.der-werftverein.de/ako/ako.html
http://www.der-werftverein.de/ako/ako_bau.html

Pfalz-Scout · 11 April 2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldman

At me a question: deformation wing instead of ailerons was used on all types Е?

Hello, Oldman,

Yes your assumption is right. All E-Types built by PFALZ (and also FOKKER) were made similar to the MORANE-SAULNIER and equipped with wing twisting for roll control.

Greetings
Pfalz-Scout

GrzeM · 11 April 2006, 10:15 AM

Dorogyi Valery!

I understand your problem with obtaining WWI aviation-related books in Belarus. About 10 years ago here in Poland we had the same problems.

At first check this website, it contains lots of photos of many WWI airplanes:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive1.htm

I will look what I have in my archive. How big files can your mailbox accept? I need the information about maximum size of the single e-mail and about total mailbox capacity.

Best regards from Warsaw, Poland!
Grzegorz Mazurowski

Cigogne · 14 April 2006, 05:53 PM

Pat Daily,

The vintage photos posted by Paule are of Otto-built type B pusher aircraft of 1913, and not Pfalz-built machines. They have the Otto stencil directly on the side. These are of the 1913 model which had the triple rudder.

The 1914 model of the Otto pusher (and the license-built Pfalz Otto pusher) had a revised tailplane and single rudder design.

Oldman · 18 April 2006, 12:53 AM

Hi all,

In the list of German seaplanes WW1 under Marinenummern 15, 19, 30-39, 65, 69 the plane with unusual designation AGO 14 appears. What it is the machine?

Oldman

Pfalz-Scout · 30 April 2006, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldman

Hi all,

In the list of German seaplanes WW1 under Marinenummern 15, 19, 30-39, 65, 69 the plane with unusual designation AGO 14 appears. What it is the machine?

Oldman

Hello Oldman

AGO was founded 1912 in Berlin-Johannisthal as a subsidiary of the Gustav Otto Werke, München. The design of their aeroplanes were very similar to the Otto types.
The picture attached shows a AGO Sea-Reconnaissance Biplane marked with D15.

Greetings
Pfalz-Scout