Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #20

[Varese2002]

I will send you with this one to your bookcase with reference books .

This time you have two pictures of the same machine. Please give as much as you know about this one. Exact name please.





Have a good time searching for this one.

varese

Score Board at the beginning of Round 20 is:

5 Varese2002
3 Rbailey
2,5 Breguet
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 Colin A Owers
1 bshatzer
1 Eric Goedkoop
1 JohnMacG
1 ercoupepilot
1 joegertler
0,5 YavorD

[Breguet]

What an extraordinary craft. It almost looks like an electric R/C machine.

(Thanks for the .5 on the kite btw varese - makes up for the assist I didn't get for the Junkers )

[Varese2002]

The creative talent of designers is unlimited . That was also the case in WW1. But this one is special.

Varese

[Breguet]

It looks like another drone type aircraft.

[Varese2002]

You are searching in the wrong direction. But for next challenges I have more drones and / or UAV's (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle). This early one (a little before 1914 actually) was specially designed to move on the road. In those times the top brass thought that relocating aeroplanes was on the road, via trucks.

I found here another picture of this rarity (in bigger format because this one is so difficult), wings are here flapped out :



Varese

[Varese2002]

Actually, looking again at this picture. It is a beauty

Varese

[ercoupepilot]

Looks like a 1912 De Marcay-Moonen Monoplane from France.

Ryan

[ercoupepilot]

More specifically a 1912 De Marcay-Moonen "L'Abeille" (Bee) monoplane

-Ryan

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by ercoupepilot

More specifically a 1912 De Marcay-Moonen "L'Abeille" (Bee) monoplane

-Ryan

Ryan you are dead on target. Excellent, excellent . What a beauty this machine. I erred somewhat because it was pre-1914, but only realized that after I placed this machine.

For the record here is another picture of the De Marcay-Moonen



All those photos of this machine seem to be taken on the same muddy place.

Varese

Score Board at the end of Round 20 is:

5 Varese2002
3 Rbailey
2,5 Breguet
2 ercoupepilot
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 Colin A Owers
1 bshatzer
1 Eric Goedkoop
1 JohnMacG
1 joegertler
0,5 YavorD

[Rod_Filan]

Almost, but I cannot accept this fully.

Le Monoplan de Marçay-Moonen is the name given, however this may not be entirely correct.

Somewhat beyond of my league of expertise; but here's the way I interpret it:
From my airship research and assistance from Jean-Pierre Lauwers (BE) via Paul Van Daalen (NL), I accept this aircraft should be properly titled Le Monoplan de Marçay-Kluytmans or perhaps de Marçay-Kluytmans-Moonen.

The jury is still out on this because A. I haven't been able to indentify Moonen and B. French aeronauts are on the back burner for now - but I believe the order is:
Marçay = Financier
Kluytmans = Engineer/designer
Moonen = Construction firm

The Marçay-Moonen monoplane is the second aeroplane of M. Kluytmans - said to be a folding monoplane which was later constructed into two aircraft. One piece of which was sold to a Tunesian Air-Club. The Dutch inventor Kluytmans presented his first aeroplane, a Wright-type biplane, designed and built by himself and bankrolled by de Marçay, at Reims in 1909. It is doubtful this twin-pusher biplane was successful and no record of flight is documented. The earliest Marçay-Kluytmans project was the ingenious Marçay-Kluytmans airship.

Other Marçay-Kluytmans Airship photos:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...mans_1_jpl.jpg
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...mans_2_jpl.jpg
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...mans_3_jpl.jpg

I have a nice overhead-shot postcard with specs of the Marçay-Kluytmans folding wing monoplane which I will post later if anyone is interested.

VBR
Rod