Brequet's Aircraft id challenge #34

Rbailey · 3 December 2006, 08:15 AM

Brequet's Aircraft id challenge #34

This may not be as unusual as we have been used to.

score at the end of round 33:

5,1 Rbailey
5 Varese2002
4,6 ercoupepilot
3,9 Breguet
3 Eric Goedkoop
2,8 JohnMacG
2 Dave_Kent
1,6 Rod Filan
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 Colin A Owers
1 bshatzer
1 joegertler
0,5 YavorD

Varese2002 · 3 December 2006, 08:39 AM

This machine was what their Italian crew said 'siamo perduti' (S.P.) translated ' we are lost'. It was not very popular.

Savoia-Pomilio S.P.3

Varese

Breguet · 3 December 2006, 03:40 PM

Hmmmmm.....What do we do with ex-aces? Especially when they answer so quickly! They might discourage new comers. How about a 48hr handicap? What do people think?

Rbailey · 3 December 2006, 03:49 PM

I won't object if Varese takes the lead again, but in this case he did not quite hit the target. Still time for someone else to get it, if by chance he is asleep.

Breguet · 3 December 2006, 06:06 PM

The Eroberte Savoia Pomilio of 1917.

http://www.flieger-album.de/fotos/19...%5B1917%5D.htm

EricGoedkoop · 3 December 2006, 06:25 PM

The fins and rudders are wrong for the SP-3.

There's only four to choose from and it sure ain't the -4, so I've got a 50/50 shot. . . . . .

I'll go with Savoia-Pomilio SP-2.

If that's wrong then it's a gimme for the next guy

EricGoedkoop · 3 December 2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breguet

The Eroberte Savoia Pomilio of 1917.

http://www.flieger-album.de/fotos/19...%5B1917%5D.htm

This photo is an SP-3; note the rounded balances on the rudders.

I believe eroberte is german for "defeated."

Dave_Kent · 3 December 2006, 07:27 PM

Hello:

Following on the theme, the aircraft appears to be an S.I.A. SP 3. S.I.A. (Italian Aviation Company) was formed in June 1916, it being essentially the aviation division of Fiat.

Savoia and Pomillio were the design team, rather than the manufacturer.

The SP 3 is also sometimes known as the ‘lightened SP” or the “type 6B”.

Dave

Varese2002 · 4 December 2006, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breguet

Hmmmmm.....What do we do with ex-aces? Especially when they answer so quickly! They might discourage new comers. How about a 48hr handicap? What do people think?

I think you are right, I will not participate in this challenge

. By the way I see the answer was not correct.

Varese

Rbailey · 4 December 2006, 05:28 AM

A lot of controversy for a not so unusual machine. My post was identified by its source as an SP2, and compared to a picture of an SP3 taken from nearly the same angle in the Harleyford publication, the more rounded nose on the latter is clear. A revised nacelle was one of the differences between the two machines. That would make the picture shown by Breguet an SP2 also. I don't know about the rudders, but their appearance could depend on the angle at which they were set if they were not centered. The point goes to Eric. I hope to update the scoring and post another later today; no time now.