Originally Posted by YavorD
I do not know the designation of this machine.
It was listed as "Fliegende Boat" (Flying Boat) designed by Melli Beese, Charles Boutard and Hermann Dorner and built at Yacht-Werft Oertz in Hamburg at the end of 1913. The flying boat was supposed to participate in Warnemuende Ostseeflug in August 1914. The boat was commandeered by Marinekommandatur at Warnemuende on 1 August 1914. Melli Beese and Charles Boutard were expelled from Flugplatz Johannisthal too, and Melli Beese's highly successful Fliegerschule was closed.
I would like to read about further developments concerning this flying boat and his designers.
Yavor and of course Rod you are right on the mark. This is the elusive Beese-Boutard Flugboot
designed by the German aviatrix Melli Beese and her husband the Frenchman Charles Boutard. Only this drawing / sketch is available for this machine.
The construction of this flying boat was unique as the hull had a special double construction (twin hull). Each part of the hull had the full capability of floating the entire Flugboot.
It is said in many articles that the machine was patented, but hours of searching have not returned any Patent of Beese-Boutard's Flugboot unfortunately. If there are people on the Forum with a Patentnumber of this Patent I would be greatly obliged.
The machine was powered by a 100 hp Mercedes engine driving a pusher propeller. Length 9,20 meter, Span 15,90 meter, Height 3,48 meter.
Owing to the boat form no stabilizers were mounted at the end of the wing. The upper wing had a distinct Taube form.
The machine was built in Warnemünde, not in Johannisthal (I have never read that it mysteriously disappeared after she was arrested in 1914).
As said, the famous Hermann Dorner
[1882 - 1963 ] helped out with the design of the machine. Beese had already designed a Taube like machine in 1912. I think it will never be known how much Beese - Boutard - Dorner each did with the design, but I think that Dorner had a consulting part in it as he already had his own Dorner Flugzeug GmbH, which folded in 1912. At the end of 1915 Dorner was chief designer of the Riesenflugzeugabteilung
of the Deutschen Flugzeug-Werke (DFW) in Leipzig-Lindenthal. From 1916 till the end of WW1 he was chief constructor of engine development (Flugmotorenentwicklung) in the Hannover Waggonfabrik, Abteilung Flugzeugbau, in Hannover-Linden (Hawa). A great career.
His remaining archive is held in the Deutsches Museum
. Possibly it has a shred of information about this Flugboot.
As said Beese and Boutard were interned as foreign citizens in the beginning of august 1914. According to sources the Flugboot rottet away in Warnemünde, the place where it was built by the Jachtwerft Oertz.
Allegedly this is Melli Beese drawing on the Flugboot
By the way I do not see much similarity with the early Dornier giant flying boats.
Thinking a full day about it I think it will be right to allot the full poiunt to Yavor, who was the first with the machine and details of the surrounding story.
An interesting flying boat (Flugboot) appearing in tragic circumstances in need of further study. Perhaps there is someone around with the Patentnumber
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