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Old 20 February 2007, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Aircraft Challenge # 129

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Old 20 February 2007, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Farman

The nacelle definitely looks like it has Farman heritage.
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Old 21 February 2007, 06:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Caudron GA

Good morning Dave. Kees must be sleeping. I don't have a picture of this one....but...

The Caudron GA was produced in response to the Aviation Militaire's need for a more powerful army cooperation aircraft which could carry a forward-firing machine gun. By equipping the GA with two engines, Caudron increased the aircraft's range and created a position for a nose gunner. The G.3 was redesigned to permit this arrangement; the plane was enlarged and the central crew nacelle was lengthened. The observer fired a machine gun (a Hotchkiss 7-mm or a Lewis gun) on a flexible mounting in the nose. However, this arrangement did not permit the gun to be used to protect against attacks from behind. On some aircraft a crude attempt was made to rectify this by fitting a gun to the top wing fixed to fire to the rear. This arrangement proved ineffective and the gun was soon removed from the aircraft in service.

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Old 21 February 2007, 08:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Looks like it could be an early predecessor to the Italian Caproni Ca3, not sure of an exact designation, maybe a Ca2 or Ca1?
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Old 21 February 2007, 09:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Rod:

I went into the thread expecting to see Kees as well, and maybe Rbailey too, but you were alone.

Bad news however, not a Caudron GA, but it sounds interesting and I will have to look it up.

I will let players know that this was a service type and equipped 3 or 4 squadrons.

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Old 21 February 2007, 09:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I still can't believe it's not a Caudron. Maybe it is, just not a GA ?

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Old 21 February 2007, 09:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi!

It looks like twin-engined version of Maurice Farman M.F.11 with something like Renault air-cooled Vee-engines.

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Old 21 February 2007, 09:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A bit more information:

Farman might be considered to be a Great Uncle, or something similar, but not a close family member. Don’t go there.

The machine is not a Caproni or Caudron.

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Old 21 February 2007, 12:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Dave, this is a very obscure one. Cannot give any sort of ID, but would opt out owing to the tail struts and three or even four rudders to be from the same stable as the Italian S.I.A. S.P. series, but then a two-engined version

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Old 21 February 2007, 01:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Kees, welcome back.

You are very much on the right track.

This is not an S.I.A. product, but...

The type entered service in the early autumn of 1917 and remained at the front until close to the end of the war.

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