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27 June 2007, 02:27 PM
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Breguet's Crash file #66
Another offering from Mike
Scoreboard: 08.8 Rbailey 07.05 YavorD 05.5 Fokkerj 05.5 Breguet 05.4 Gregvan 04.5 Gilles 04.0 Edmond 04.0 Eric 04.0 Ross 03.0 Rickenbaron 01.9 Dan_San 01.8 Tom L 01.3 Colin Owers 01.3 Varese2002 01.0 Berman 01.0 C_Thurman 01.0 Cruze 01.0 Expositor 01.0 ONEALM 01.0 PaulForster 01.0 Rod Filan 01.0 Troy Raines 00.75 Der Grüne Flieger 00.2 Crankcase |
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27 June 2007, 04:18 PM
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Well, I struck out with my guess of a D.H.4 on the last crash pic, but here we go again.
I think it's an Airco D.H.9. 1. It's a big Brit plane with a two-bladed prop. 2. The aileron control horn is in the right place and and the control wire seems to enter the wing at the right place. Also, the pulley cover for the control wire at the leading edge matches the D.H.9. 3. The cutout in the top wing over the cockpit area matches the D.H.9. 4. The top wing shows a lot of ribs, matching other D.H.9 pics I have. 5. There appears to be a radiator coolent pipe running from the engine to a large vertical "pillar" or streamlined fairing -- same for a D.H.9. 6. You can see one of the two round holes from the nose of a D.H.9 cowling between the legs of the third figure from the left. 7. The little bit of horizontal stabilizer showing is a good match for the profile of a D.H.9. 8. The rudder counterbalance and vertical stabilizer area is a good match for a D.H.9. 9. The configuration and "weight" of the struts is a good match to the D.H.9. 10. The engine area is a good match to the exhaust-side of a D.H.9. 11. I've got several other D.H.9 crash photos, and they all nose over at nearly the identical angle creating much the same kind of image. Last edited by Patrick; 27 June 2007 at 04:41 PM. |
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27 June 2007, 08:17 PM
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 Hi Breguet,  I know it's too early for a wager, but as usual I firstly studied the foto, made an educated guess [sometimes uneducated], then read any guesstimations. If they're right, so ends my research. By Jove! I think he's got it! The first thing I saw was the classic De Havilland tail, but the cabane struts looked a little too tall! A quick look at the nose suggested D.H.9. After reading Patrick's well thought out piece, I can only say that I concur. Thanks, FOKKERJ 
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28 June 2007, 01:12 AM
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Welcome to the scoreboard Patrick! This is indeed a DH 9 the aircraft of Paul Feuchtwanger, as if a crash isn't bad enough imagine that handle! (Apologies to any Feuchtwangers out there, but you got to admit......)
08.8 Rbailey 07.05 YavorD 05.5 Fokkerj 05.5 Breguet 05.4 Gregvan 04.5 Gilles 04.0 Edmond 04.0 Eric 04.0 Ross 03.0 Rickenbaron 01.9 Dan_San 01.8 Tom L 01.3 Colin Owers 01.3 Varese2002 01.0 Berman 01.0 C_Thurman 01.0 Cruze 01.0 Expositor 01.0 ONEALM 01.0 Patrick 01.0 PaulForster 01.0 Rod Filan 01.0 Troy Raines 00.75 Der Grüne Flieger 00.2 Crankcase |
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bet that was a tough childhood!
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28 June 2007, 07:37 AM
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and now, the context (well some of it...)
Indeed a crash by New jersey native Paul Jerrold Feuchtwanger from Madison (the "Rose Capital" of the US - before we stareted importing from South America).
This photo was originally captioned "Got lost and crash landed this DH 9 in England. That's my back. November 28, 1917." Unfortunately, no other details have been located. Feuchtwanger was trained initially in Canada and later in England. His assignments are not well known, but he was at Old Sarum in the Spring of 1918 and this shot is possibly from that time. He was later assigned to the U.S. 100th Aero Squadron a unit activated the day before the armistice.
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28 June 2007, 10:58 PM
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Breguet Quote: Welcome to the scoreboard Patrick! This is indeed a DH 9 the aircraft of Paul Feuchtwanger, as if a crash isn't bad enough imagine that handle! (Apologies to any Feuchtwangers out there, but you got to admit......)
Hi Breguet, I don't get it. I fail to see the humor in this. Am I missing something? Is there something you would like to share with the rest of us? Thanks, FokkerJ Feuchtwanger
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