Can anyone ID these German propellers?

[josef scott]

Oh, my...

Kees, are you referring to Vol 32 Number 2 Summer 2001? This can be ordered from the C&C website. I wonder how extensive the coverage is?

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by josef scott

Oh, my...

Kees, are you referring to Vol 32 Number 2 Summer 2001? This can be ordered from the C&C website. I wonder how extensive the coverage is?

Article must be 6 pages (p.88-93). Given the stature of the Cross & Cockade society it should be at least a very scholarly and exact piece of research. Of course it is just luck if pictures gives an impression of the firm insignia.
That reminds me that these German propeller factories also must have advertised in contemporary WW1 German magazines (like Flugsport), so contemporary pictures of the insignias are available, but hard to find.

Just a few pictures for your collection.............

Some propellers ends a bitter end



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Propeller [cannot read the rest of it]



Wotan



Kees

[Machinbird]

Kees,
I can read a bit more text on this version of the one you can't read much of the text on. Something like ****dorf Propeller Werke. Does anyone have a complete one of these?
Sid

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by Machinbird

Kees,
I can read a bit more text on this version of the one you can't read much of the text on. Something like ****dorf Propeller Werke. Does anyone have a complete one of these?
Sid

I had saved this list of German propeller manufacturers (not necessarily complete), but I could not find the one on this picture . By the way if all of them had manufacturers markings Josef has a lot of work before him

Kees

Source: “Commission Interalliee de Controle Aeronautique en Allemagne.”

Axial Propeller Gesellschaft m. b. H.
Behrend und Ruggebrecht
Bleichroder Flugzeug Industrie G. m. b. H.
Deutsche Luftschrau benbau Gesellschaft m. b. H.
Erste Suddeutsche Propellerwerke
Eta Gesellschaft m. b. H.
Kurt Fliegel
Freundel
Garuda Propellerbau G. m. b. H.
Hugo Heine Propellerwerke
Helix Propeller G. m. b. H.
Hirth Propeller Versuchsbau
Imperial Propellerwerke G. m. b. H.
C. Lorenzen Luftschraubenbau
Markgraf und Tau
K. Mohns Luftschraubenfabrik
Gebruder Niendorf G. m. b. H.
Franz Reschke G. m. b. H.
Salzmann und Sohn
A.Steiniger und Cie
Vereinigte Frieburger Uhrebfabrik A. G.
F. R. Wernicke (Deutsche Propellerwerke)
B. Wohlert
Wilhelm Wolff Luftschraubenfabrik
Max H. Wolter Modellfabrik
Wotan Propellerbau Peter und Sass G. m. b. H.

[Varese2002]

Searching around I found this here.

Charles Hart ( hartc@spot.colorado.edu ) took the following photos during a visit to the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, Australia in July, 1995. Charles' descriptions follow:

Now the really good stuff. Six prints are of the Pfalz D-XII, 2600/18. This is the serial of this airframe and it is displayed in the scheme in which it was captured. The airframe was restored to current conditions in the 1970's and the other color pictures of it are found in an issue of Windsock. At the time of restoration, new fabric representing 5-color lozenge was applied. I have personal interest in propeller manufacturer's logo decals, hence the detail shot of the original Nienforf Propeller Werke logo.

So the picture of the propeller is taken from the Pfalz D.XII in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra ! But .... there was never a Nienforf Propeller Werke. The firm that produced this propeller was almost surely the Gebrüder Niendorf GmbH in Luckenwalde, Germany. The firm of the Gebrüder Niendorf were piano builders before the war, changing during the war to propellers and after the war again to piano's.

There is an easy way to know exactly what it is. Perhaps one of our Australians can have a look or have already sharp detail pictures of this manufacturing emblem.

Kees

[josef scott]

Kees & Machinbird,

Those are great pics. Looks like a lot of the detail (particularly the text) has worn off the Gebrüder Niendorf prop. Don't know if I'll get around to all those manufacturers! I would certainly be up for an attempt at anything I had a good image of.