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Old 25 November 2007, 07:08 PM #41 (permalink)
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Turtledeck ciorrugation converged.

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Two points:
1. In photo, partial left side view, post 33. The courrugation are converging to the center, where there is a riveted seam.
2. The turtle deck curves downwards and is compounded. This precludes the corrugation being parallel to the center-line of the fuselage. This is the reason for the two piece trtle-deck with converging corrugations.
The dark color in the photographs of the Ju D.I (Jco) and D.I (Jfa) both is the mauve. The light color is the PALE mossy green. The Air Ministry document identifies the Pale green. It is very light in color. In 1972, while visiting the Balloon Hangar on the hill at Chalais Meudon, SW of Paris, I was able to closely inspect the store disassembled Ju.D.I. I had found places on the fuselage where the brown paint had flaked off, I could see the original colors, they were pale mossy green and light pinkish mauve which was the darker of the two colors. In the photograph, top rear view, in post 23, the darker of the two greys was the pinkish mauve and the lighter grey was the pale mossy green. The undersides were white.
Let provide a scale, white, greenish white, pale green, pastel green, light green, medium green, green. i would say about Methuen 30B3. and the mauve about 15 B4/5.
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Old 25 November 2007, 07:43 PM #42 (permalink)
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Interesting is all you can say??? It's faked! It is all corrugated sheetmetal that the museum must have added (they did get the corrugation pitch correct). The radiator vents are all wrong too. Look at all the holes in the radiator surround. The prop is wrong (should be a Fok D7) and I think the exhaust collector might be wrong as well. Where are the guns?

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This D.I was "restored" in 1974, now do you really think they knew what they were doing then? Same goes for the Smithsonian's Albatros D.Va lozenge colors (about same time period), they butchered those colors too.
Museums don't have the time & money to do things right....as you well know?
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No Jan it is not all I can say, but its better than tainting anyone with my opinions. Research gives us the facts. You seem to have a good deal of them concerning this machine's history. As for the propeller they were based on the engine type not the aircraft. As for the guns who knows? They should be Spandaus of course. When you hear someopne say something is "interesting" in the area of historical research it should raise a question and cause further digging.

As for the NASM they well know my objections to their treatment of the artifacts they have displayed. Its not time or money, its the interior decorators they hire as administrators to restore aircraft. But that is not the point here.

Dan makes some historically based comments concerning the colours. So were are looking at mauve, light pea green and dark green for the upper surface colours and off white for the lower surfaces.
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I have moved this thread here to the airrcaft forum as it has gone right away from the discussion about the model. Not that this is a bad thing at all. I just think for the time being it is better suited here.
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