Breguet's Crash File Nr.165

FOKKERJ · 13 January 2008, 12:13 AM

Welcome to the 165th Breguet's Crash File.

During the previous challenge, once again FF & F teamed up and further distanced themselves from many of the pack.

The scoreboard starts at:

20.75 Rbailey
13.10 Fokkerj Feuchtwanger
12.90 Froggy
11.65 YavorD
11.35 Breguet
O07.60 Rod_Filan
07.4 Gregvan
06.3 Varese2002
05.75 Ross
05.5 Expositor
05.5 Gilles
05.0 Dan_San
05.0 ONEALM
04.0 Edmond
04.0 Eric
03.5 sergio_vitalio
03.0 Kilian
02.7 Colin A Owers
02.25 Patrick
02.2 Crankcase
02.0 Cruze
02.0 Rickenbaron
01.8 Tom L
01.0 Berman
01.0 Cliff
01.0 Jeroplan
01.0 PaulForster
01.0 Pvernon
01.0 Troy Raines
01.0 Ransom E. Olds
01.0 rammjaeger
00.75 Der Grüne Flieger
00.7 tbstreet

Froggy, you're on your own on this one.
I'll be watching!

For your entertainment I present the following:

Once again I've stripped off as much fabric containing identifying markings as humanly possible!

Anyone with a score of zero to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner!

"ACES" with 5.0 and higher, please observe the 3.0 hour handicap.

Regards,

FOKKERJ

sergio_vitalio · 13 January 2008, 01:53 AM

I think it Halberstadt CL.IV.

Froggy · 13 January 2008, 03:47 AM

hELLO

"Froggy, you're on your own on this one.
I'll be watching!"

No problem Fokker J- we have only 0.2 pts between us in your advantage!!
As you know "Fair Play " is a french word too!

I'ill only play only next challenge!

Cordialement
Bruno

Froggy · 13 January 2008, 05:12 AM

But
If I had put a guess, I think that I should Say it was a Halberstadt CL II

like this one
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...2sanke1071.jpg

Bruno

FOKKERJ · 13 January 2008, 08:22 PM

I dropped in once or twice earlier. I have been busy working until now.

My foto only says "Haberstadt CL.". I was prepared to give sergio_vitalio 0.8 for correctly identifying the maker and answering first: "I think it Halberstadt CL.IV." and 0.2 to Froggy (bringing his score even with mine!) for: "But
If I had put a guess, I think that I should Say it was a Halberstadt CL II."

I found a three-view drawing on the Halberstadt CL.V (two bay), not a match!
My books show several fotografs of Halberstadt CL.II's, but no CL.IV.
My source says about the differences between the CL.II and the CL.IV: "Changes included re-siting of the wing cellule on a rather shorter fuselage, raising and elongating the tailplane, re-shaping the the fin and rudder, and removing the spinner."

I believe that I can see a spinner in the crash foto, too hard to tell for sure.

I located and opened a new "JOYSTICK" 1/72" vacuform kit of a Halberstadt CL.IV and Lo and behold the three-view drawing shows the elevated tailplane,
where the CL.II's is fixed about in the middle of the end of the fuselage, the CL.IV's sits near the top!SEE FOTO!

Good Job Froggy!

You get the confirmed point and the Honor of hosting the next B.C.F. #166.

Thanks Sergio for playing, better luck next time and Thanks to all of you others that participated (you know who you are!).

The new scoreboard is:

20.75 Rbailey
13.90 Froggy
13.10 Fokkerj Feuchtwanger
11.65 YavorD
11.35 Breguet
O07.60 Rod_Filan
07.4 Gregvan
06.3 Varese2002
05.75 Ross
05.5 Expositor
05.5 Gilles
05.0 Dan_San
05.0 ONEALM
04.0 Edmond
04.0 Eric
03.5 sergio_vitalio
03.0 Kilian
02.7 Colin A Owers
02.25 Patrick
02.2 Crankcase
02.0 Cruze
02.0 Rickenbaron
01.8 Tom L
01.0 Berman
01.0 Cliff
01.0 Jeroplan
01.0 PaulForster
01.0 Pvernon
01.0 Troy Raines
01.0 Ransom E. Olds
01.0 rammjaeger
00.75 Der Grüne Flieger
00.7 tbstreet

Best Regards,

FOKKERJ

Froggy · 14 January 2008, 04:41 AM

Bonjour

Thanks Fokker J

Ok i take the turn-I'll post a new one in 6 hours-

Cordialement
Bruno

Froggy · 14 January 2008, 11:03 AM

Bonsoir

Just to confirm that Fokker J said Here is a Photo with the CLII,CLIV
and challenge photo

As you will see there is evidence why I choosen CL II
(photos are extract from Fighter aircraft Of the 1914-1918 War)
and as we said in french "une bonne image vaut mieux qu'un long discours"

Cordialement

Bruno

Next challenge soon..

FOKKERJ · 16 January 2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froggy

Bonsoir

Just to confirm that Fokker J said Here is a Photo with the CLII,CLIV
and challenge photo

As you will see there is evidence why I choosen CL II
(photos are extract from Fighter aircraft Of the 1914-1918 War)
and as we said in french "une bonne image vaut mieux qu'un long discours"

Cordialement

Bruno

Next challenge soon..

Thank you Bruno,

My point exactly! That's why it became your point!