Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #413

[Aquilius]

Hmmm, I think we have here another one out of the myriard of german 2-seaters and looking at the fuselage sides and the tailplane I can´t get Albatros out of my mind.
If it is another "well known" prototyp like your last challenge, it may take a while until we find the right book to look in.

I don´t have many pictures of the reconnaissance planes, so I will try Albatros C.VIII this time.


That´s how the "observer" is stumping the "aces" with war-time machines!
Great challenge, Richard!

Cheers

Aquilius

[Rbailey]

I still think it has a V engine. If not an Albatros, what did the Aviatik DIV look like (not clear if it would fit based on the Gray and Thetford picture)? Was there a DV? The DVI was 2-bay, but had a frontal radiator.

[Aquilius]

Originally Posted by Rbailey

Was there a DV? The DVI was 2-bay, but had a frontal radiator.

Ron, there was. Even an Aviatik D.VI, still two-bay, which is not that impossible.

The D.VI was Aviatik's last attempt to sell a fighter.
"It´s flying characteristics were excellent, just the appearence in October 1918 was a little too late..."
Not sure if it was planned to start the series production with D.VII.

I´m a little unfamiliar with the view of that plane, put on a trestle. You can´t get much more than it´s nose.


Cheers

Aquilius

[GregE]

Hi Folks,

I agree it is a vee engine - the angle of the exhausts and the bumps in the cowling would seem to indicate that.
I thought it might be a copy or derivative of the Albatross C V but I haven't found one without the "rhino horn type exhaust.

The shape in the background might be side radiators or might be a pushed up elevator (which would match with the one-piece elevator popular on several German and Austrian aircraft.

However, the split lower wing protruding below the fuselage is a bit retrograde for late WW1 which makes me think it has to be another non-mainstream country and the "stub exhausts" (if that's what they are) tends to emphasise this.

Just my 2 cents worth!

A good challenge Richard.

Cheers
Greg

[richard B]

Well ,Aquilius and Greg ,we are leaving the freeze ,it's a central Europa one . It's amazing ,how much you can find in a so bad picture !

Sure someome will get it soon .
Good luck

Richard

[cruze]

Hello

I think it's a Brandenburg L 15 with 345hp Daimler V12 engine.

Laurent

[richard B]

CONGRATULATION CRUZE ! Bien joué .

It's the two seats Hansa-Brandenburg L 15 reco plane designed by Ernst Heinkel for Austria and built in 1917 with a 12-V 350 hp Austro-Daimler motor
One proto only .
I join a better picture .

Span 13,6m length 8,74m wing area 52,7m2 flying weight 1500kg

By the way some HB plane are not often illustrated ;They were designed in Germany for Austria's only use .They are neither in german nor austrian reference books .
So our scoreboard after challenge #413 is:

77.9 Varese2002 ☼
56.9 Dave_Kent ☼
40.0 Rbailey ☼
15.5 YavorD
13.3 Rod Filan
13.0 Froggy
10.8 Cruze
9.7 Aquilius
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
7.1 Breguet
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
4.0 GregE
3.8 richard B
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

We all are waiting now for the # 414 !

Cheers
richard